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Post by nw12398 on Feb 23, 2020 14:58:27 GMT
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Post by peterl on Feb 23, 2020 17:41:51 GMT
The full result for the ward last year: Labour 918/720/513, Ind 563, Tory 455/404. So no independent, but the addition of a Green, which hopefully will not split Labour's vote and let the Tories in.
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Post by lackeroftalent on Feb 23, 2020 17:51:53 GMT
The full result for the ward last year: Labour 918/720/513, Ind 563, Tory 455/404. So no independent, but the addition of a Green, which hopefully will not split Labour's vote and let the Tories in. Please don't buy into this standard Labour trope. If Labour can't win on FPTP because it wasn't just them and the tories, tough. Plus this idea that all Green voters would otherwise vote Labour is patent nonsense.
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Post by peterl on Feb 23, 2020 17:56:57 GMT
Well with three candidates, Labour Green and Tory, I would imagine most people considering voting Green might be more likely to vote Labour otherwise than Tory. Especially following the Green New Deal policy.
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Post by middleenglander on Feb 25, 2020 23:35:54 GMT
Two Town Council wards on the banks of the River Severn
Bewdley, Bewdley West - Conservative hold Party | 2020 votes | 2020 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | since 2014 "top" | since 2014 "average" | Conservative | 219 | 50.5% | +11.9% | +14.2% | +16.5% | +15.5% | Green | 122 | 28.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 57 | 13.1% | -11.3% | -11.5% | -12.8% | -11.9% | Liberal Democrat | 36 | 8.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent ^ |
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| -40.0% | -40.0% | Total votes | 434 |
| 45% | 48% | 46% | 59% |
^ elected as Independent Community and Health Concern (IC&HC) in 2014 Swing, if meaningful, Labour to Conservative 11½% / 12¾% since 2019 and 14½% / 13¾% since 2014 Council now 8 Conservative, 3 Labour, 1 IC&HC, 1 Independent Stourport-on-Severn, Areley Kings West - Conservative hold Party | 2020 votes | 2020 share | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | Conservative | 175 | 40.4% | -20.2% | -19.3% | +2.7% | +2.3%% | Green | 111 | 25.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | IC&HC | 97 | 22.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | -1.0% | -1.4% | Labour | 40 | 9.2% | -30.2% | -31.1% | -14.5% | -13.5% | Liberal Democrat | 10 | 2.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | UKIP |
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| -15.2% | -15.4% | Total votes | 433 |
| 68% | 70% | 27% | 28% |
Swing, if meaningful, Labour to Conservative ~ 5% / 6% since 2019 and 8½% / 8% since 2015 Council now 11 Conservative, 4 IC&HC, 3 Labour
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Post by peterl on Feb 26, 2020 9:57:18 GMT
^ Were these contests held last Thursday?
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Post by middleenglander on Feb 26, 2020 10:08:54 GMT
^ Were these contests held last Thursday? No, yesterday.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 26, 2020 10:25:45 GMT
Not a great time to hold an election in Bewdley
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Post by middleenglander on Feb 26, 2020 10:34:47 GMT
Not a great time to hold an election in Bewdley The ward is on the dry side of the river protected by demountable steel barriers. The wet side was protected by more temporary plastic sheeting with I understand a better solution already planned. Many locals believe one part of the solution is for more effective management of the river including dredging.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 26, 2020 10:44:10 GMT
Not a great time to hold an election in Bewdley The ward is on the dry side of the river protected by demountable steel barriers. The wet side was protected by more temporary plastic sheeting with I understand a better solution already planned. Many locals believe one part of the solution is for more effective management of the river including dredging. Bewdley is unlikely to be seen as a priority case for dredging as it is upstream of the Blackstone, the limit of navigation for deeper craft, including pleasure cruisers, which can only reach Stourport before turning round. It might have been different had the townspeople of Bewdley not rejected the prospect of the Staffs and Worcs Canal, which they called the "stinking ditch" reaching the river at the town. Instead, it went to what is now Stourport, which prospered from the commercial traffic it generated.
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Post by middleenglander on Feb 26, 2020 10:55:03 GMT
The ward is on the dry side of the river protected by demountable steel barriers. The wet side was protected by more temporary plastic sheeting with I understand a better solution already planned. Many locals believe one part of the solution is for more effective management of the river including dredging. Bewdley is unlikely to be seen as a priority case for dredging as it is upstream of the Blackstone, the limit of navigation for deeper craft, including pleasure cruisers, which can only reach Stourport before turning round. It might have been different had the townspeople of Bewdley not rejected the prospect of the Staffs and Worcs Canal, which they called the "stinking ditch" reaching the river at the town. Instead, it went to what is now Stourport, which prospered from the commercial traffic it generated. The issue is further downstream from Bewdley but the impact is seen upstream. Over 50 years ago the Severn was used to a large extent by petrol barges but they became redundant when the pipelines were commissioned. There is now little or no economic sense in dredging for pleasure boats. It is for water management that it is seen to be required.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Feb 26, 2020 11:16:28 GMT
Nonetheless, the Severn is officially a navigable river to just upstream of Stourport only, and the responsibility to maintain navigation (including by dredging) exists for that part of the river and not beyond.
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Post by syorkssocialist on Feb 26, 2020 12:25:38 GMT
The Stainforth by-election I mentioned earlier won't happen. An independent candidate was elected unopposed because our would be Labour candidate messed up his nomination form, which he only handed in at the last minute.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 26, 2020 12:50:30 GMT
The Stainforth by-election I mentioned earlier won't happen. An independent candidate was elected unopposed because our would be Labour candidate messed up his nomination form, which he only handed in at the last minute. Was it @priceofdawn ?
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 26, 2020 21:03:41 GMT
Dredging would... not help with the present situation. Frustration understandable (and not just for Bewdley: the whole of the Marches is basically in a natural disaster situation right now, but of course no one even pretends to care), wrong solution and then some.
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Post by middleenglander on Feb 27, 2020 0:09:35 GMT
Dredging would... not help with the present situation. Frustration understandable (and not just for Bewdley: the whole of the Marches is basically in a natural disaster situation right now, but of course no one even pretends to care), wrong solution and then some. I was rescued by the army through a first floor window as a 3 month old baby when the town in Lincolnshire was flooded as the banks of the river gave way. My mother was petrified whenever there was a flood warning as she did not wish to suffer the experience again. I have therefore some understanding and real sympathy for what people are going through if they live near to the rivers and are at risk. That said, the number of homes flooded along the Severn is significant lower than in recent years. The river is at a very similar level to 2000 and most of the flood prevention measures have worked although sadly some have not. There is also wide spread disruption but mainly in well known locations where locals know how to cope. Flood water will always find the weakest spot and exploit any weaknesses. The Environment Agency has had a policy of not managing water courses over several years. This has included abandoning dredging whilst the EU has apparently classed dredged silt as hazardous material. I have heard people who know the River Severn well express the view that such a policy has contributed to the regular occurrence of what was previously deemed to be a once in a century event. Members of the Environment Agency has said new thinking is required. Part of this surely has to be better ways of managing the water flow along our major rivers.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 27, 2020 22:51:16 GMT
Monmouth Community Council, Overmonnow ward
SMITH, Rodney Bartlett (Welsh Conservative Party Candidate) 157 McCARTNEY, Laura Mary (Indy Monmouth: Independent, Non- Partisan, Determined Yours) 136
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Post by hugh01 on Feb 27, 2020 23:08:50 GMT
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Post by peterl on Feb 28, 2020 12:33:39 GMT
Bridport Area Neighbourhood Plan Referendum
Yes 1,861 86.92% No 280 13.08%
17.5% turnout
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Post by WestCountryRadical on Feb 28, 2020 13:15:31 GMT
Another by-election for Wells City Council took place yesterday, in St Cuthbert's Ward
Liberal Democrat 458 Conservative 372 Labour 143
Lib Dem hold
Turnout 26.2%
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