Sibboleth
Labour
'Sit on my finger, sing in my ear, O littleblood.'
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 25, 2015 17:05:03 GMT
I understand that Rio Tinto would be happy to step in and manage the transition.
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 25, 2015 17:50:24 GMT
carlton43 what is it you want, no monarchy or a more powerful monarchy? It does not of course matter what you want, what you will get is the monarchy the rest of us want. This one. Of course you are right and I can live with that at ease. I would prefer no monarchy and certainly not a stronger monarchy. The Abdication Crisis was not about monarchy it was about the dead hand of state religiosity and small minded middle class morals triumphing over a simple desire to marry. Churchill had an American wife and Charles has engineered a divorce and marriage to his long time divorced mistress. Edward VII had a plethora of mistresses and permanent chambers in a Paris brothel. I think we could have coped with a Simpson. What's the point of being King and Head of the Church if you can't choose your own damn bride and tell the Archbishop to do as he is told? |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 25, 2015 17:55:26 GMT
The Glorious Revolution of 1689 essentially Establised two things vis a vis the monarchy. 1) The end of the Devine Right of Kings 2) That the monarchy exists on the sufferance of parliament. But some members of UKIP clearly view 1689 as just some new-fangled nonsense .... I really don't think that there is a party position on this! But seeing as you raise it, it was and remains a 'new fangled nonsense' of the third water. All that treasure blood and trouble to get rid of the problem and twice we restore the bloody people. Mugs or what? |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 26, 2015 2:08:36 GMT
The 'Abdication Crisis' showed the weakness and poor quality of advice to the King. And the hangover of narrow-minded religiosity and absurd upper class social 'rules' still prevailing. The King was thwarted for all the very worst reasons and the whole matter was an utter disgrace. He should have toughed it out and brought to a head Church and State, perhaps by sacking the pernicious twat archbishop in his capacity as supreme controller of the church actually constructed for the purposes of the crown. It might have resulted in the end of monarchy and the end of the established church and the end of Baldwinism with the ascent of Churchill usefully earlier? In fact I think he would have won and Baldwin and Archbishop would have gone and Churchill would have taken the Conservatives by a 'coup'. That description is based on the premise that King Edward VIII was deposed because of his desire to marry an undesirable. It ignores the possibility that his political opinions and general personality flaws may have been an equally decisive factor. He may well have ended up in some sort of catastrophe anyway - not necessarily of the below-the-belt variety - if he had stayed. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 26, 2015 3:23:14 GMT
Maybe this showed how it might have happened? Ha! Essentially the same character as in TFARO Reginald Perrin. I noticed James Walker in the first scene; he played Syme in "Nineteen Eighty Four". |
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john07
Labour & Co-operative
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Post by john07 on Oct 26, 2015 7:26:16 GMT
Maybe this showed how it might have happened? Ha! Essentially the same character as in TFARO Reginald Perrin. I noticed James Walker in the first scene; he played Syme in "Nineteen Eighty Four". It was the same character as from Reggie Perrin but as BBC had the copyright, they had to change the name. |
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