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Post by Merseymike on May 28, 2017 12:28:15 GMT
I think he would be fine. What you mean is that he would pursue policies you don't like. The day we start pleasing libertarian right wingers is a day to regret!
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Post by johnloony on May 28, 2017 23:55:09 GMT
Diane Abbott stood in 2010. Jeremy Corbyn stood in 2015 as the lefty candidate only because the various lefties sat around the table looking at each other and realised that it was "Corbyn's turn". If Corbyn had stood in 2010, and if Abbott had stood in 2015, she would have lost just as badly as she did anyway in 2010.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 29, 2017 20:31:22 GMT
She came 5th out of 5 in 2010 for a reason. The reason being that the membership was smaller and more sensible after 13 years in government. Most of her potential supporters had left in disgust. No, that really wasn't the reason Diane Abbott finished last in 2010. |
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Post by Merseymike on May 29, 2017 21:31:44 GMT
She came 5th out of 5 in 2010 for a reason. The reason being that the membership was smaller and more sensible after 13 years in government. Most of her potential supporters had left in disgust. Don't agree. I rejoined to vote in that election. I voted for Ed Miliband and would do so again if the same candidates were on offer....I'd just hope he wouldnt have let Balls anywhere near the shadow cabinet. I like Diane Abbott but she is too much of a loose cannon. |
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Post by Foggy on May 30, 2017 5:18:08 GMT
The reason being that the membership was smaller and more sensible after 13 years in government. Most of her potential supporters had left in disgust. Don't agree. I rejoined to vote in that election. I voted for Ed Miliband and would do so again if the same candidates were on offer.... I'd just hope he wouldnt have let Balls anywhere near the shadow cabinet.Was he not elected into it by his fellow MPs? Admittedly, they might not all have wanted him to be in as senior a frontbench position as the one he fell into in January 2011, but party rules do not allow them to dictate to the leader in that much detail. |
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Post by Merseymike on May 30, 2017 8:59:17 GMT
Don't agree. I rejoined to vote in that election. I voted for Ed Miliband and would do so again if the same candidates were on offer.... I'd just hope he wouldnt have let Balls anywhere near the shadow cabinet.Was he not elected into it by his fellow MPs? Admittedly, they might not all have wanted him to be in as senior a frontbench position as the one he fell into in January 2011, but party rules do not allow them to dictate to the leader in that much detail. There are ways and means. Give him something so demeaning that he would resign. I blame him entirely for the neither-fish-nor-fowl incoherence of the austerity and cuts but not so many and not so fast nonsense. |
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Post by The Bishop on May 30, 2017 10:17:40 GMT
His speech to the 2014 party conference was a genuine horror. Designed to win over lobby journalists, who still treated us with contempt regardless.
Who knew?
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Post by johnr on May 30, 2017 11:30:37 GMT
Yes, what Mike isnt telling us is that Ed Balls' economic policies were so bad, that Jeremy and John have decided they need to be to the right of them.....
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Post by Merseymike on May 30, 2017 16:50:55 GMT
Yes, what Mike isnt telling us is that Ed Balls' economic policies were so bad, that Jeremy and John have decided they need to be to the right of them..... And then we wonder why the Scottish party has become a sad joke.... |
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