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Post by No Offence Alan on Sept 13, 2015 22:31:30 GMT
We would have been bored to tears by three months of vacuous sound bites from the other three candidates.
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Post by cuthbertbede on Sept 13, 2015 22:39:04 GMT
We would have been bored to tears by three months of vacuous sound bites from the other three candidates. And all of the pundits would have been writing articles claiming that Corbyn should have been nominated to liven the whole thing up. |
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Post by mondialito on Sept 13, 2015 22:39:56 GMT
Burnham tacks right in the face of the Kendall-Media love-in. Cooper wins as the 'Anyone but Liz' candidate.
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Post by johnloony on Sept 13, 2015 23:56:55 GMT
Burnham would have won, we would now be back to "normal" politics, and Labour would be heading towards a 2015-style defeat in 2020 instead of a 1931-style defeat.
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Post by swindonlad on Sept 14, 2015 4:44:43 GMT
The media coverage would have been more akin to the level of the deputy leader contest after week 2 when nothing exciting was happening
Burnham would have won & both the other 2 would have been appointed to posts in the shadow cabinet & by now South Staffs would be being mentioned
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Sept 14, 2015 8:13:43 GMT
What would have happened in the Labour leadership election and what would the outcome have been? It's obvious I think. Turnout would not have been 76% it would have been nearer the historical average. As to the result in the first round Andy Burnham would have won 47% of the vote, Yvette Cooper 42% of the vote and Liz Kendall 11% of the vote. As no candidate breached 50%, Kendall's second preferences would be distributed. In order to win Andy Burnham would need 27% of Kendall's second preferences to win, where as Yvette Cooper would need 73% of Kendall's second preferences to win (so therefore it would be Andy Burnham who won) |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 14, 2015 10:06:58 GMT
In the still fairly unlikely event that Corbyn actually looks like taking Labour to a repeat of 1931, he has said himself he would step aside were he a genuine liability.
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Post by johnr on Sept 14, 2015 11:33:50 GMT
In the still fairly unlikely event that Corbyn actually looks like taking Labour to a repeat of 1931, he has said himself he would step aside were he a genuine liability. Since he has today flagged down a passing Police Car to complain that journalists were following him and asking him about his shadow cabinet, I suggest that moment has been reached... |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 14, 2015 11:41:25 GMT
In the still fairly unlikely event that Corbyn actually looks like taking Labour to a repeat of 1931, he has said himself he would step aside were he a genuine liability. Since he has today flagged down a passing Police Car to complain that journalists were following him and asking him about his shadow cabinet, I suggest that moment has been reached...  |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 14, 2015 11:43:24 GMT
Is this actually, you know, confirmed? Or just another juicy but scurrilous rumour like the "shadow minister for Jews" one??
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Post by johnr on Sept 14, 2015 12:33:14 GMT
I admit I saw it tweeted by Kay Burley, but apparently there is SKY TV footage of it happening...
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Sept 14, 2015 12:34:28 GMT
There is, I've seen it.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 14, 2015 13:19:10 GMT
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 14, 2015 18:58:55 GMT
Does being annoyed by journalists actually lose you votes?
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Post by Tangent on Sept 14, 2015 20:16:45 GMT
I can't remember whether it's been pointed out elsewhere, but all this could have been avoided had Eric Joyce been able to handle his drink and his temper.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 14, 2015 20:19:08 GMT
Does being annoyed by journalists actually lose you votes? I think it probably does. The public doesn't see this as rudeness to journalists, but as general rudeness. The general voter isn't ever going to have a chance to see leading politicians personally, and to get to know them. They are just going to see them when they appear on TV, and if when they appear on TV they are grouchy or angry, that's what people will assume the politician is like. |
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Post by manchesterman on Sept 14, 2015 22:35:00 GMT
Burnham would probably have won.
Corbyn would have remained on the bank benches and steadfastly continued not to wear a tie!!
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Post by neilm on Sept 14, 2015 22:58:36 GMT
In the still fairly unlikely event that Corbyn actually looks like taking Labour to a repeat of 1931, he has said himself he would step aside were he a genuine liability. If that happened, it wouldn't make a difference: by that point, Labour would be so far behind that recovery would be next to impossible. |
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Post by Politics in the Real World on Sept 14, 2015 23:07:21 GMT
Is this actually, you know, confirmed? Or just another juicy but scurrilous rumour like the "shadow minister for Jews" one?? What does this matter a damn? Jim Callaghan never said 'Crisis, what crisis?' but it helped bring him down. He brought it on himself. Politics, especially in the world of rumours spreading over Twitter in 2 seconds flat, thrives on this. It's not a vicar's tea party. If your new leader can't squash these things, or indeed just stop making these stupid gaffes, then he shouldn't be leader, no matter how much crying 'He never really said that!' 'You've taken that out of context!' and so on that there is. |
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Post by johnloony on Sept 15, 2015 4:08:34 GMT
There is nothing in that video of him "flagging down a police car", so why did johnr say he did? |
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