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Post by curiousliberal on Jun 7, 2019 14:34:37 GMT
Dominic Grieve has been asked to attend a special association meeting tonight following on from his no confidence vote.
David Gauke has a no confidence motion set for 28 June.
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Post by curiousliberal on Jun 8, 2019 7:17:20 GMT
Further to this, the Beaconsfield chair has told Grieve he must now apply for readoption for the 2022 General Election. Unlike the symbolic no confidence vote, this is actually the route to deselection.
A bit bemused that my post above was 'liked' considering its second part - Gauke has consistently voted for the WA. Are detractors of 'no deal' not proper Conservatives?
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 8, 2019 8:31:23 GMT
Further to this, the Beaconsfield chair has told Grieve he must now apply for readoption for the 2022 General Election. Unlike the symbolic no confidence vote, this is actually the route to deselection. A bit bemused that my post above was 'liked' considering its second part - Gauke has consistently voted for the WA. Are detractors of 'no deal' not proper Conservatives? No🙄. I liked it because I want Grieve gone for continually threatening to leave the party. I have no opinion of Gauke and am skeptical of No Deal. Like withdrawn to avoid confusion. |
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Post by curiousliberal on Jun 8, 2019 8:31:55 GMT
Further to this, the Beaconsfield chair has told Grieve he must now apply for readoption for the 2022 General Election. Unlike the symbolic no confidence vote, this is actually the route to deselection. A bit bemused that my post above was 'liked' considering its second part - Gauke has consistently voted for the WA. Are detractors of 'no deal' not proper Conservatives? No🙄. I liked it because I want Grieve gone for continually threatening to leave the party. I have no opinion of Gauke and am skeptical of No Deal. Like withdrawn to avoid confusion. No problemo - I was bemused, not disagreeing, due to the absence of clarification. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 8, 2019 17:26:21 GMT
No🙄. I liked it because I want Grieve gone for continually threatening to leave the party. I have no opinion of Gauke and am skeptical of No Deal. Like withdrawn to avoid confusion. Says the man who has only just changed his colours back to Conservative after supporting the Brexit Party in the Euro Elections That's completely irrelevant. I never threatened to leave the party over Brexit as far as I recall. Therefore, my painful decision to not supportive the Conservatives until Theresa agreed to go is not comparable to Grieve threatening to leave the party completely. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 9, 2019 9:09:23 GMT
Says the man who has only just changed his colours back to Conservative after supporting the Brexit Party in the Euro Elections That's completely irrelevant. I never threatened to leave the party over Brexit as far as I recall. Therefore, my painful decision to not supportive the Conservatives until Theresa agreed to go is not comparable to Grieve threatening to leave the party completely. But the crucial part of rebutting this sort of charge is two-fold in that you (and I) did not change our colours, we merely voted away in Euro elections that should not have been held at all and were only held because of the stupidity, incompetence and duplicity of our own party. We saw it as a duly to record our distress and to assert the need to depart the EU instantly in a manner our own party has utterly denied us. Secondly, and most crucial, is the point that we are mere ordinary public citizen supporters with no fiduciary or contractual connection to that party. We are not MPs. We have not taken and accepted 'The Whip'. We are not bound by honour, money, duty, association and support to abide by party policy and party dictat. We are free men. We shall vote as we please. Those MPs had treasure and support lavished on their campaign and the people on their patch voted in general expectation of certain actions and certain results. We have no such restraints or constraints. An MP is to an extent a creature of his party and would not be there without their hard work, their cash and their endorsement. We are not beholden to anything at all in any circumstance. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 9, 2019 11:10:18 GMT
That's completely irrelevant. I never threatened to leave the party over Brexit as far as I recall. Therefore, my painful decision to not supportive the Conservatives until Theresa agreed to go is not comparable to Grieve threatening to leave the party completely. But the crucial part of rebutting this sort of charge is two-fold in that you (and I) did not change our colours, we merely voted away in Euro elections that should not have been held at all and were only held because of the stupidity, incompetence and duplicity of our own party. We saw it as a duly to record our distress and to assert the need to depart the EU instantly in a manner our own party has utterly denied us. Secondly, and most crucial, is the point that we are mere ordinary public citizen supporters with no fiduciary or contractual connection to that party. We are not MPs. We have not taken and accepted 'The Whip'. We are not bound by honour, money, duty, association and support to abide by party policy and party dictat. We are free men. We shall vote as we please. Those MPs had treasure and support lavished on their campaign and the people on their patch voted in general expectation of certain actions and certain results. We have no such restraints or constraints. An MP is to an extent a creature of his party and would not be there without their hard work, their cash and their endorsement. We are not beholden to anything at all in any circumstance. All those points are, of course, correct. He also mistakes a lack of support for the national party with a lack of support for the party in general. I've never been disloyal to the SCUP and never will. Perhaps Labour people don't get that given the slavish attitude of the SLAB leadership?😉 |
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Post by willpower3 on May 24, 2024 9:59:37 GMT
Making the first post in this thread in almost five years to note a big (but expected) one. Jeremy Corbyn.
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Post by The Bishop on May 24, 2024 12:26:04 GMT
Strictly speaking, it is an "auto-exclusion" under Labour party rules.
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