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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 7:57:31 GMT
Terrible night for us.
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Post by marksenior on Aug 21, 2015 8:18:49 GMT
Don't worry , carlton will be along soon to say these are only flesh wounds and like the Black Knight UKIP are invincible . |
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Post by marksenior on Aug 21, 2015 9:05:35 GMT
Camborne TC Pendarves ward result ( same voters as CC different candidates ) Con gain from Ind
Con 379
LDem 272
Lab 226
Meb K 185
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 21, 2015 9:39:11 GMT
Camborne was bad, but it's Cornwall so volatility isn't surprising. You weren't really relevant in either of the other two, so it's about in line with what you'd expect. |
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carlton43
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 21, 2015 13:51:44 GMT
Don't worry , carlton will be along soon to say these are only flesh wounds and like the Black Knight UKIP are invincible . Correct. In the extreme locality they matter a little bit. As regards the core part of the medium term plan they are totally irrelevant. You are an empirical organization that builds step by step more than any other current party. We are not. We are in the business of mood change and the generation of surges of support. You are good at what you do but your snakes are quite as apparent as our ladders as the last GE demonstrated! Our ladders delivered many second places and your snakes nearly lost all your seats. Don't get cocky. We are alright. |
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Post by marksenior on Aug 21, 2015 15:16:43 GMT
One of the benefits of old age is that you have seen it all before . This includes bad election results for Liberals in 1970 and 1979 and elections such as 1974 and 1983 when we achieved loads of 2nd places . The Liberals always recovered pretty quickly from bad GEs in the past and we will do so again . The UKIP 2nd places will disappear like snow in June just as their 1st places in council by elections are vanishing .
UKIP do have a chance of mobilising the antipathy/hatred of the EU minority view in the country with the forthcoming referendum but this is unlikely as many of this minority will still vote Conservative or Labour .
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 21, 2015 15:22:27 GMT
Yes OK mark, we have been around the circuit a few times. We know that at this period a few local results are neither here nor there. I am far from sure you will be strongly back quickly. You might. I don't know how we shall fare over five years and through 2020.
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Post by justin124 on Aug 21, 2015 21:15:00 GMT
Overall Labour did ok in those wards. Each implied a swing in their favour from Con relative to 2012 or 2013.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Aug 21, 2015 21:27:50 GMT
One of the benefits of old age is that you have seen it all before . This includes bad election results for Liberals in 1970 and 1979 and elections such as 1974 and 1983 when we achieved loads of 2nd places . The Liberals always recovered pretty quickly from bad GEs in the past and we will do so again . The UKIP 2nd places will disappear like snow in June just as their 1st places in council by elections are vanishing . UKIP do have a chance of mobilising the antipathy/hatred of the EU minority view in the country with the forthcoming referendum but this is unlikely as many of this minority will still vote Conservative or Labour . [coughs discreetly] ... or Lib Dem.  |
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Post by middleenglander on Aug 22, 2015 23:45:02 GMT
What a difference the candidate makes? Cambourn Pendarves
| Party | Unitary Council | Town Council | Unitary Council | Town Council | Difference | Difference |
| Votes | Votes | Share | Share | Votes | Share | | Conservative | 325 | 379 | 30.3% | 35.7% | +54 | +5.4% | | Liberal Democrat | 311 | 272 | 29.0% | 25.6% | -39 | -3.4% | | Labour | 220 | 226 | 20.5% | 21.3% | +6 | +0.8% | | UKIP | 89 |
| 8.3% |
| -89 | -8.3% | | Mebyon Kernow | 85 | 185 | 7.9% | 17.4% | +100 | +9.5% | | Green | 31 |
| 2.9% |
| -31 | -2.9% | | Independent | 13 |
| 1.2% |
| -13 | -1.2% | | Total votes | 1,074 | 1,062 |
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What else makles a difference? |
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 23, 2015 11:36:39 GMT
What a difference the candidate makes? Cambourn Pendarves
| Party | Unitary Council | Town Council | Unitary Council | Town Council | Difference | Difference |
| Votes | Votes | Share | Share | Votes | Share | | Conservative | 325 | 379 | 30.3% | 35.7% | +54 | +5.4% | | Liberal Democrat | 311 | 272 | 29.0% | 25.6% | -39 | -3.4% | | Labour | 220 | 226 | 20.5% | 21.3% | +6 | +0.8% | | UKIP | 89 |
| 8.3% |
| -89 | -8.3% | | Mebyon Kernow | 85 | 185 | 7.9% | 17.4% | +100 | +9.5% | | Green | 31 |
| 2.9% |
| -31 | -2.9% | | Independent | 13 |
| 1.2% |
| -13 | -1.2% | | Total votes | 1,074 | 1,062 |
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What else makles a difference? I agree that the different candidates make a large difference (quite clearly in the Lib Dem case!) but the lack of UKIP clearly assisted the Tories and MK in the Town Council election. |
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Post by piperdave on Aug 23, 2015 15:07:58 GMT
What a difference the candidate makes? Cambourn Pendarves
| Party | Unitary Council | Town Council | Unitary Council | Town Council | Difference | Difference |
| Votes | Votes | Share | Share | Votes | Share | | Conservative | 325 | 379 | 30.3% | 35.7% | +54 | +5.4% | | Liberal Democrat | 311 | 272 | 29.0% | 25.6% | -39 | -3.4% | | Labour | 220 | 226 | 20.5% | 21.3% | +6 | +0.8% | | UKIP | 89 |
| 8.3% |
| -89 | -8.3% | | Mebyon Kernow | 85 | 185 | 7.9% | 17.4% | +100 | +9.5% | | Green | 31 |
| 2.9% |
| -31 | -2.9% | | Independent | 13 |
| 1.2% |
| -13 | -1.2% | | Total votes | 1,074 | 1,062 |
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What else makles a difference? Many a mickle maks a muckle. |
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