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Post by andrewteale on Aug 14, 2015 19:30:28 GMT
Sibboleth will be along shortly, but Arllechwedd is not a student ward in urban Bangor.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 14, 2015 19:45:17 GMT
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 14, 2015 20:05:30 GMT
Sibboleth will be along shortly, but Arllechwedd is not a student ward in urban Bangor. Well, I'm not sure students are the decisive thing about university towns, but yes I got confused about exactly where it was. I just read Bangor and assumed it was within the town. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 14, 2015 22:27:08 GMT
Yeah, it's made up of a couple of villages immediately east of Bangor (although it does, somewhat weirdly, include the port). Probably wasn't a brilliant choice of candidate, but the ward had previously been held via personal votes...
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Post by john07 on Aug 14, 2015 22:53:31 GMT
In Welsh, 'gwyn' (white) is the masculine form of the adjective, whereas 'gwen' is the feminine form. As I frequently have to remind people.  Strangely Gwin is Breton for wine. |
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Post by piperdave on Aug 14, 2015 23:20:44 GMT
That seems a very good Tory result in Falkirk. Is there any known explanation for this? As part of the fundamental sea change caused by Referendum and SNP GE wipe out of Labour (except for their most marginal seat?) I think and now begin to smell a start of Conservative swing back in the new circumstances. The evidence from the council by-elections since the General really don't bear this out. The only seats where the Conservatives increased by more than 1% compared to the 2007 elections (and yes that's deliberately 2007) are those where Independents got decent vote shares but none were standing in the by-elections. The only exception to this is... Craigton. Possibly the most socialist ward in the country. Everywhere else, results are equal to, or worse than, 2007 even on lower turnouts when you might have expected to be able to turn the vote out disproportionately. Now, admittedly, Glasgow and North Lanarkshire aren't natural Tory territory. It will be interesting to see what happens in wards in Stirling and Highland for example but I wouldn't bet on Ruth increasing the size of the parliamentary party next year. |
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Post by MeirionGwril on Aug 15, 2015 7:04:23 GMT
As I frequently have to remind people. Strangely Gwin is Breton for wine. Gwin is also the Welsh for wine, so white wine is gwin gwyn. [Note adjective comes after the noun as in French etc.] But, whereas gwyn has a short vowel, gwin has a long one, thus gwin gwyn would be pronounced gween gwinn in English spelling. (In northern accents the 'y' in gwyn is somewhat different from the English 'i'). |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 15, 2015 11:03:21 GMT
Viticulture presumably isn't native to Britain or northern France, so this is probably one of an abundance of cases where both Breton and Welsh have borrowed the word from Latin.
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 15, 2015 13:39:02 GMT
As part of the fundamental sea change caused by Referendum and SNP GE wipe out of Labour (except for their most marginal seat?) I think and now begin to smell a start of Conservative swing back in the new circumstances. The evidence from the council by-elections since the General really don't bear this out. The only seats where the Conservatives increased by more than 1% compared to the 2007 elections (and yes that's deliberately 2007) are those where Independents got decent vote shares but none were standing in the by-elections. The only exception to this is... Craigton. Possibly the most socialist ward in the country. Everywhere else, results are equal to, or worse than, 2007 even on lower turnouts when you might have expected to be able to turn the vote out disproportionately. Now, admittedly, Glasgow and North Lanarkshire aren't natural Tory territory. It will be interesting to see what happens in wards in Stirling and Highland for example but I wouldn't bet on Ruth increasing the size of the parliamentary party next year. No contest PD. I meant 'start of' and medium term prospect. Looking to the inevitable partial unwind from your present very high point, I see the probability of a beneficiary. As in-place party of government it will be increasingly different to present as moderate centre and hard-left and centre right, even to different audiences in different places. Your much widened and younger base must be providing a continual impetus to the anti-austerity left of centre. That is a much contested ground with only SCons as a centre-right alternative. As that sinks in, I hope to see a small but continuous drift of votes in that direction, perhaps for two decades, until it is again a major player. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 15, 2015 13:42:33 GMT
As always you confuse what you would like to be the case with what is actually the case. The Scottish electorate is not particularly left wing but the parts of it that do not vote Tory hate the Tories as the Tories are widely seen as being anti Scottish/opposed to Scottish interests. There will therefore be no recovery.
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Post by Tony Otim on Aug 15, 2015 19:13:39 GMT
As always you confuse what you would like to be the case with what is actually the case. The Scottish electorate is not particularly left wing but the parts of it that do not vote Tory hate the Tories as the Tories are widely seen as being anti Scottish/opposed to Scottish interests. There will therefore be no recovery. And let's face it, the recent GE campaign south of the border, didn't exactly do much to dispel this impression... |
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Post by john07 on Aug 19, 2015 16:34:14 GMT
Viticulture presumably isn't native to Britain or northern France. Never heard of Muscadet? Or the very underrated Gros Plant? Both are produced in Brittany although, to be fair, not in an area that was ever strongly Breton speaking. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 19, 2015 17:22:13 GMT
Viticulture presumably isn't native to Britain or northern France. Never heard of Muscadet? Or the very underrated Gros Plant? Both are produced in Brittany although, to be fair, not in an area that was ever strongly Breton speaking. Big fan of Gros Plant, quite tough to find in Britain. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 20, 2015 10:54:00 GMT
Viticulture presumably isn't native to Britain or northern France. Never heard of Muscadet? Or the very underrated Gros Plant? Both are produced in Brittany although, to be fair, not in an area that was ever strongly Breton speaking. And potatoes grow in Ireland, but they aren't native to it. |
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