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Post by iainbhx on Apr 21, 2016 6:08:37 GMT
I understand from a good source that there is to be a statement by the Boundary Commission about Birmingham today. Wierd, final recommendations are not expected before May. A round of further consultations about a few select areas, like they love to do these days? They have time, next election is in 2018. My suspicion is that either a) extra time to consider the volume or b) We are starting from scratch again. Allowing Leeds 99 and Birmingham 100 is difficult for them to defend.
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Post by rocky on Apr 21, 2016 8:02:04 GMT
Major changes certainly needed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 13:11:48 GMT
There seem to be just over 2000 replies from residents to the recommendations. An indication of how poorly they have been received by people. Does anyone have any experience of how high this level of response is compared to other reviews? Does this mean changes are likely to be made? It is an enormous response by the standards of other reviews. The only comparable response level was when they were doing the reviews to convert two tier areas to unitaries a few years ago.
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Post by iainbhx on Apr 21, 2016 13:28:22 GMT
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Post by rocky on Apr 22, 2016 7:44:13 GMT
Interesting developments, previous extensions have only been for three weeks haven't they? Guess they must be redoing most the map really. Mind they need to redo most the map
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Post by maxque on Apr 22, 2016 8:25:47 GMT
Interesting developments, previous extensions have only been for three weeks haven't they? Guess they must be redoing most the map really. Mind they need to redo most the map And most extensions were only about parts of the map, rest of the authority being confirmed as definitive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 11:22:17 GMT
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Post by rocky on Apr 22, 2016 23:48:17 GMT
Indeed that's true, be interesting to see if any areas are considered locked in brum. Judging from the returns imagine it actually full map change
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Post by John Chanin on May 10, 2016 16:34:50 GMT
New proposals published. Unfortunately most complaints have been dealt with by increasing the number of 2 member wards, which at c15,000 will remain the second largest in the country. Richard Allen will be delighted that Glebe Farm & Tile Cross is unchanged.....
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Post by Adrian on May 10, 2016 18:29:45 GMT
Well it's definitely better, including a much improved arrangement around Erdingon, but there are a few things that they've been stubborn about. For example, here in Kingstanding the local campaign specifically asked for the boundary to be moved so that it doesn't segregate the social housing from the private housing, but the Commission's stuck to its guns.
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Post by Adrian on May 10, 2016 21:12:26 GMT
WHy is there such a big difference between the LGBCE's electorate for Birmingham (728,730) and the BCE's (686,804)?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 10, 2016 21:25:58 GMT
WHy is there such a big difference between the LGBCE's electorate for Birmingham (728,730) and the BCE's (686,804)? Major cities generally include a large number of EU citizens, who are part of the local government electorate but not the Parliamentary electorate.
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Post by Adrian on May 10, 2016 21:35:37 GMT
Ah thanks. I should've thought of that, seeing that my other half is one of said EU citizens...
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Post by Adrian on May 11, 2016 15:53:47 GMT
So I made this. I think this must be a problem with a lot of the reviews the Commission does: you end up with areas where most/all the seats are above average and areas where most/all the seats are below average.
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Post by greatkingrat on May 11, 2016 21:15:38 GMT
Is that because the wards in the centre of Birmingham are predicted to have higher growth in the next five years?
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Post by rocky on May 14, 2016 10:01:51 GMT
Having had time to look at them properly now it is interesting how many resident requests which wouldn't impact on any other area they could have easily fitted in. Eg Selly Park, Edgbaston reservoir, Jewellery Quarter, Kingstanding, Perry Common, Glebe Farm
All could be fitted inn without hitting other requests the commission had
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Post by John Chanin on May 14, 2016 16:24:06 GMT
Having had time to look at them properly now it is interesting how many resident requests which wouldn't impact on any other area they could have easily fitted in. Eg Selly Park, Edgbaston reservoir, Jewellery Quarter, Kingstanding, Perry Common, Glebe Farm All could be fitted inn without hitting other requests the commission had We should remember that "resident requests" are not always either reasonable or represent the opinions of more than a handful of those with vested interests or bee-filled bonnets. It has previously been speculated on this site, probably correctly, that middle class residents who are more likely to kick up a fuss get their way at the expense of poorer areas, which get carved up in unsatisfactory ways. The LGBCE is independent, and long may it remain so.
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Post by Adrian on May 14, 2016 16:40:02 GMT
Having had time to look at them properly now it is interesting how many resident requests which wouldn't impact on any other area they could have easily fitted in. Eg Selly Park, Edgbaston reservoir, Jewellery Quarter, Kingstanding, Perry Common, Glebe Farm All could be fitted inn without hitting other requests the commission had We should remember that "resident requests" are not always either reasonable or represent the opinions of more than a handful of those with vested interests or bee-filled bonnets. It has previously been speculated on this site, probably correctly, that middle class residents who are more likely to kick up a fuss get their way at the expense of poorer areas, which get carved up in unsatisfactory ways. The LGBCE is independent, and long may it remain so. But it's exactly the middle-class requests that the LGBCE has paid most heed to. Look at the list of areas it has revised: Moseley, Acocks Green, Hall Green, Edgbaston, Erdington, Sutton. It's devoted its time and resources to the areas where the people had most time and resources. Other areas it has hardly even paid lip service to!
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Post by Adrian on May 14, 2016 16:42:34 GMT
Is that because the wards in the centre of Birmingham are predicted to have higher growth in the next five years? It is true of a few of them, yes, but the pattern isn't much better by 2021.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 14, 2016 21:15:57 GMT
Having had time to look at them properly now it is interesting how many resident requests which wouldn't impact on any other area they could have easily fitted in. Eg Selly Park, Edgbaston reservoir, Jewellery Quarter, Kingstanding, Perry Common, Glebe Farm All could be fitted inn without hitting other requests the commission had We should remember that "resident requests" are not always either reasonable or represent the opinions of more than a handful of those with vested interests or bee-filled bonnets. It has previously been speculated on this site, probably correctly, that middle class residents who are more likely to kick up a fuss get their way at the expense of poorer areas, which get carved up in unsatisfactory ways. The LGBCE is independent, and long may it remain so. Independent is sometimes a synonym for entirely unresponsive.
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