Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 18, 2015 17:29:23 GMT
I wonder, that the inhabitants of LLanelli seemingly have never wanted to be part of the South, where they belong to generally. Is it because of that quarter, which still speaks Welsh?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 18, 2015 18:03:49 GMT
I wonder, that the inhabitants of LLanelli seemingly have never wanted to be part of the South, where they belong to generally. Is it because of that quarter, which still speaks Welsh? Any suggestion of placing Llanelli in an authority shared with/ located in/ dominated by Swansea would be about as popular as Will Carling as the local MP.
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Post by cibwr on Jun 23, 2015 8:49:48 GMT
The leadership in Swansea seem quite keen, the Swansea Bay City region board includes Carmarthenshire, Swansea, Neath Port Talbot and Pembrokeshire!
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 25, 2015 13:45:31 GMT
Astonishing, that the Republic Ireland hasn't abolished the counties of their British exMasters - altough they aren't too useful for the cities of Limerick or Waterford -, but the UK have replaced them partly, shortly before 1000 years DomesdayBook.
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Post by obsie on Jun 25, 2015 19:08:44 GMT
Astonishing, that the Republic Ireland hasn't abolished the counties of their British exMasters - altough they aren't too useful for the cities of Limerick or Waterford -, but the UK have replaced them partly, shortly before 1000 years DomesdayBook. Quite a lot of those counties (particularly in the north and west) reflect pre-existing Gaelic territories (Fermanagh = Fear Manach, Donegal = Tír Chonaill + Inis Eoghain, Leitrim = Breifne Uí Ruairc + Muintir Eolais, Longford = Anghaile). There is also the GAA factor which reinforces county loyalties (for English readers, assume that every county has as strong a sense of identity as Cornwall or Yorkshire).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 21:04:57 GMT
Astonishing, that the Republic Ireland hasn't abolished the counties of their British exMasters - altough they aren't too useful for the cities of Limerick or Waterford -, but the UK have replaced them partly, shortly before 1000 years DomesdayBook. Quite a lot of those counties (particularly in the north and west) reflect pre-existing Gaelic territories (Fermanagh = Fear Manach, Donegal = Tír Chonaill + Inis Eoghain, Leitrim = Breifne Uí Ruairc + Muintir Eolais, Longford = Anghaile). There is also the GAA factor which reinforces county loyalties (for English readers, assume that every county has as strong a sense of identity as Cornwall or Yorkshire). Fans of county cricket know that very well
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 25, 2015 22:19:08 GMT
Astonishing, that the Republic Ireland hasn't abolished the counties of their British exMasters - altough they aren't too useful for the cities of Limerick or Waterford -, but the UK have replaced them partly, shortly before 1000 years DomesdayBook. Quite a lot of those counties (particularly in the north and west) reflect pre-existing Gaelic territories (Fermanagh = Fear Manach, Donegal = Tír Chonaill + Inis Eoghain, Leitrim = Breifne Uí Ruairc + Muintir Eolais, Longford = Anghaile). There is also the GAA factor which reinforces county loyalties (for English readers, assume that every county has as strong a sense of identity as Cornwall or Yorkshire). To some extent, though the fit is very far from exact - e. g. Inishowen means 'peninsula of Eoghain' and unsurprisingly was therefore historically part of Tír Eoghain, or Tyrone as it's currently known. It's not like Irish kingdoms ever had static borders and the major reason for the survival of Irish counties is historical inertia, which is not a force to be trifled with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 11:31:30 GMT
now they reform the reform, inclusively separating Cardiff from the Valleys, what they opposed under Heath... Quite so. They should stick with the stance they had 40 years ago if they have any principles!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 11:33:07 GMT
So LAB with its love for unitaries restored (with Heseltine) the system of 1889 and now they reform the reform, inclusively separating Cardiff from the Valleys, what they opposed under Heath... Quite so. They should stick with the position they held 40 years ago if they have any principles.
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