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Post by Richard Gadsden on Oct 9, 2015 18:47:03 GMT
The legislation expressly forbids crossing national borders That's a relief. It means Calais doesn't get to elect an MP to the House of Commons again. We really should establish constituencies for expats. Lots of other countries have done it and it's worked pretty well.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 2, 2015 12:27:04 GMT
In theory, since yesterday we have known the quota and the bands of acceptability for the 2018 review.
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Dec 2, 2015 12:38:50 GMT
In theory, since yesterday we have known the quota and the bands of acceptability for the 2018 review. Any idea when the December update is released across the country?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 2, 2015 12:55:26 GMT
I've been trying to get the answer to that question myself. Not imminently, in any case.
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 2, 2015 13:56:16 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 3, 2015 11:47:30 GMT
Westminster's Parliamentary electorate on the 2016 register is 110,956, comprising 59,210 in Westminster North and 51,746 in Cities of London and Westminster.
The City of London's Parliamentary electorate is 6,158.
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Post by greatkingrat on Dec 3, 2015 12:07:32 GMT
That is a 2.8% rise since 2015, contrary to speculation that IER would cause a big drop in London.
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piperdave
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Post by piperdave on Dec 4, 2015 23:45:26 GMT
ONS usually publishes the stats in February. If you are really keen, you could ask each ERO individually and they should be able to tell you now.
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Post by Sharon on Dec 5, 2015 18:55:03 GMT
In theory, since yesterday we have known the quota and the bands of acceptability for the 2018 review. Any idea when the December update is released across the country? All SCC cllrs who had requested the register for their own wards got them on Tuesday 1st.
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Post by greenhert on Dec 14, 2015 23:37:02 GMT
The whole 600 seats issue would be much easier if the allowed variance from the average was 10% rather than 5%-that way, we can avoid creating any cross-county seats (well, except for one matching small parts of western Worcestershire with Leominster and its surrounding environs and of course the obligatory Rutland and (insert name here) seat).
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Dec 19, 2015 19:44:45 GMT
I rang up the Boundary Commission on Monday asking for confirmation of the Boundary Review process and they replied by e-mail yesterday (but I was rather caught up with all the local by-elections on Friday) where they explained it all wonderfully. In the middle of February next year the electorates for every local authority in Britain will be dumped on their website (and e-mailed to those on their lists) with a reminder of the rules for the review which is the electoral quote (determined taking into account the exceptions) +/- 5%, however no formal submissions can be made until the Boundary Commission have had their first stab (in other words, the end of 2017 or later) but if I am reading the e-mail correctly there is nothing to stop the likes of us discussing our own creations up to that point.
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Post by greenhert on Dec 19, 2015 20:34:53 GMT
I rang up the Boundary Commission on Monday asking for confirmation of the Boundary Review process and they replied by e-mail yesterday (but I was rather caught up with all the local by-elections on Friday) where they explained it all wonderfully. In the middle of February next year the electorates for every local authority in Britain will be dumped on their website (and e-mailed to those on their lists) with a reminder of the rules for the review which is the electoral quote (determined taking into account the exceptions) +/- 5%, however no formal submissions can be made until the Boundary Commission have had their first stab (in other words, the end of 2017 or later) but if I am reading the e-mail correctly there is nothing to stop the likes of us discussing our own creations up to that point.
Who gets put onto a boundary commission's 'list' regarding emails?
As for discussion of our own creations after we get that list, I hope this will be used as good practice for real-life submissions to the Boundary Commission, given what a mess some of the aborted proposed seats were (hopefully this time there will be a way to avoid a cross-Tamar seat over in Cornwall). For example there is no good reason to create such seats as 'Warminster & Shaftesbury' or 'Mid Bedfordshire & Harpenden'.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 1:58:16 GMT
I think they put on lists whoever submitted before and/or persistent types like Harry and me....
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Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 20, 2015 3:32:00 GMT
I think they put on lists whoever submitted before and/or persistent types like Harry and me.... They've emailed me and asked if I'd be prepared to be interviewed about past and future consultation procedures. !
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 1, 2016 21:53:14 GMT
Interesting story in the Telegraph (bottom right):
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 1, 2016 22:31:36 GMT
As for discussion of our own creations after we get that list, I hope this will be used as good practice for real-life submissions to the Boundary Commission, given what a mess some of the aborted proposed seats were (hopefully this time there will be a way to avoid a cross-Tamar seat over in Cornwall). For example there is no good reason to create such seats as 'Warminster & Shaftesbury' or 'Mid Bedfordshire & Harpenden'. As far as the South West is concerned, none of the constituent counties have changed much in electorate, so I would expect the draft proposals to be the same as last time give or take an odd ward here or there.
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Post by La Fontaine on Jan 2, 2016 10:29:01 GMT
I disagree with the criticism of the five percent variance. I generally think that bodies such as the Electoral Commission should be given as little discretion as possible. A ten percent variance would give political parties licence to make hay with alternative proposals allegedly based on "communities", when they are in fact based purely on electoral calculation. MPs may be slightly inconvenienced by having to deal with multiple councils, but electors are not affected at all. But then, the whole thing is based on a discredited and corrupt electoral system........
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Post by La Fontaine on Jan 2, 2016 10:32:24 GMT
I disagree with the criticism of the five percent variance. I generally think that bodies such as the Electoral Commission should be given as little discretion as possible. A ten percent variance would give political parties licence to make hay with alternative proposals allegedly based on "communities", when they are in fact based purely on electoral calculation. MPs may be slightly inconvenienced by having to deal with multiple councils, but electors are not affected at all. But then, the whole thing is based on a discredited and corrupt electoral system........ Sorry, I meant to say "Boundary Commission". It's the time of year.
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Post by greenhert on Jan 2, 2016 11:17:30 GMT
As for discussion of our own creations after we get that list, I hope this will be used as good practice for real-life submissions to the Boundary Commission, given what a mess some of the aborted proposed seats were (hopefully this time there will be a way to avoid a cross-Tamar seat over in Cornwall). For example there is no good reason to create such seats as 'Warminster & Shaftesbury' or 'Mid Bedfordshire & Harpenden'. As far as the South West is concerned, none of the constituent counties have changed much in electorate, so I would expect the draft proposals to be the same as last time give or take an odd ward here or there.
Within the South West, the city of Bristol's electorate has grown substantially, actually, enough to need Bristol West and Bristol South in particular redrawn so that they can be within the allowable limits in terms of electorate numbers.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 2, 2016 11:28:25 GMT
Not that much, it was entitled to 3.97 seats last time and is now up to 4.01 seats. In the case of Bristol there will have to be some changes anyway to reflect the new ward boundaries but there will still be 4 seats entirely within the council boundary.
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