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Sept 30, 2018 15:12:48 GMT
Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 30, 2018 15:12:48 GMT
As I said on another thread, conference season polls fluctuate wildly. Or given some prefer to use a sailing analogy, choppy water.
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Oct 1, 2018 7:24:17 GMT
Post by archaeologist on Oct 1, 2018 7:24:17 GMT
Another BMG poll (https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/9k55mr/bmg_research_lab_40_2_con_35_3_ldm_12_2_ukip_5/) - another extreme variation in the polls.
Conservatives 35% (-3) Labour 40% (+2) Lib Dems 12% (+2) Ukip 5% (nc) Other 8% (-1)
For what its worth, the last poll produced by each polling organisation in September (Survation, MORI, ICM, You Gov, ComRes, Opinium, BMG) covers the following ranges:
Con 38-42% Lab 36-40% LDm 9-13% UKIP 2-6% Grn 1-5% Oth 3-9%
The normal statistical variation. As the BPC states (http://www.britishpollingcouncil.org/british-polling-council-introduces-new-rule-on-uncertainty-attached-to-polls/) the true position is a party's support has a 90% chance of being within +/- 4% of the figure given in the poll (and a 67% chance of being within 2% of the poll figure).
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Oct 1, 2018 21:54:29 GMT
Post by redtony on Oct 1, 2018 21:54:29 GMT
So we now have some equal and opposite evidence of whether Labour the Labour conference bounced up or down. The interesting polls will be those after all the conferences have gone home.
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Oct 1, 2018 22:00:25 GMT
Post by redtony on Oct 1, 2018 22:00:25 GMT
The poll was on Friday and Saturday after conference. The YouGov one was taken on Monday and Tuesday during conference. That would seem to indicate a Labour conference bounce if they are both any where near correct
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Oct 2, 2018 14:21:49 GMT
Post by casualobserver on Oct 2, 2018 14:21:49 GMT
The poll was on Friday and Saturday after conference. The YouGov one was taken on Monday and Tuesday during conference. That would seem to indicate a Labour conference bounce if they are both any where near correct Big "if"!!
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Oct 2, 2018 14:23:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 14:23:18 GMT
The poll was on Friday and Saturday after conference. The YouGov one was taken on Monday and Tuesday during conference. That would seem to indicate a Labour conference bounce if they are both any where near correct Big "if"!! we are talking about polling here
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Oct 3, 2018 4:34:38 GMT
Post by seanf on Oct 3, 2018 4:34:38 GMT
BMG picked up a sample of people who liked what Jeremy Corbyn said; Opinium picked up a sample of people who did not.
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Oct 3, 2018 10:50:45 GMT
Post by The Bishop on Oct 3, 2018 10:50:45 GMT
BMG picked up a sample of people who liked what Jeremy Corbyn said; Opinium picked up a sample of people who did not. Occam's Razor suggests this, though I think methodology differences may also play a part. The fact that YouGov now seem to be regularly out of step with other pollsters is perhaps a different matter.....
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Oct 3, 2018 13:17:01 GMT
Post by tonygreaves on Oct 3, 2018 13:17:01 GMT
But they are not "regularly" significantly so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 20:01:23 GMT
BMG picked up a sample of people who liked what Jeremy Corbyn said; Opinium picked up a sample of people who did not. Occam's Razor suggests this, though I think methodology differences may also play a part. The fact that YouGov now seem to be regularly out of step with other pollsters is perhaps a different matter..... though a lot of pollsters have similar methodologies yet different results which suggests sample variance
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Oct 5, 2018 23:43:04 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 5, 2018 23:43:04 GMT
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Dec 15, 2018 14:44:46 GMT
Post by seanf on Dec 15, 2018 14:44:46 GMT
BMG have 47% Leave, 48% Remain, among registered voters, conducted 4th to 7th December.
They've also polled those ineligible to vote (presumably foreign nationals) who favour Remain by 92% to 5%.
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Post by thetop on Dec 15, 2018 15:56:06 GMT
BMG have 47% Leave, 48% Remain, among registered voters, conducted 4th to 7th December. They've also polled those ineligible to vote (presumably foreign nationals) who favour Remain by 92% to 5%. 16-17 year olds?
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Dec 15, 2018 17:20:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 17:20:32 GMT
BMG have 47% Leave, 48% Remain, among registered voters, conducted 4th to 7th December. They've also polled those ineligible to vote (presumably foreign nationals) who favour Remain by 92% to 5%. 16-17 year olds? EU nationals as well i imagine
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Dec 15, 2018 19:58:48 GMT
Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 15, 2018 19:58:48 GMT
EU nationals as well i imagine Most EU nationals *are* foreigners, and 66 million EU nationals are (currently) not foreigners by being British.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:03:17 GMT
Post by john07 on Dec 20, 2018 19:03:17 GMT
EU nationals as well i imagine Most EU nationals *are* foreigners, and 66 million EU nationals are (currently) not foreigners by being British. There are a fair number of non-British EU nationals who are eligible to vote. Irish, Cypriots, etc. ?
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Jan 12, 2019 23:02:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 23:02:53 GMT
72% the lowest total since the GE for the 2 parties. YouGov still only Tory lead since 12th of Nov
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Feb 18, 2019 14:42:50 GMT
Post by LDCaerdydd on Feb 18, 2019 14:42:50 GMT
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Feb 18, 2019 15:00:43 GMT
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Post by Vibe on Feb 18, 2019 15:00:43 GMT
We are seeing a slight Conservative boost and the LD's can raise a glass too. Liberal 7's, a new party could be in the 20's. It will be interesting to see polls post Brexit and when the conservatives get a new leader. Current polls me less than usual.
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Feb 18, 2019 15:03:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 15:03:50 GMT
We are seeing a slight Conservative boost and the LD's can raise a glass too. Liberal 7's, a new party could be in the 20's. It will be interesting to see polls post Brexit and when the conservatives get a new leader. Current polls me less than usual. this is an old poll almost 2 weeks out of date. Also BMG have a LD house effect
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