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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 7, 2015 22:08:32 GMT
According to my calculations, out of the 63 female Labour MPs who were first elected in 1997 and featured in the famous Blair Babes photograph, 10 are still in the House of Commons. 26 of them have retired; 28 lost their seats, one of whom became a retread (Joan Ryan of Enfield North). One has died (Fiona Jones). By far and away the most impressive survivor is Gisela Stuart of Birmingham Edgbaston. Most of the other nine survivors represent seats that were never going to be lost, one potential exception being Karen Buck in Westminster North. Sandra Osborne may well have lost her seat ten years earlier had the old Ayr constituency been left intact. I already have a document with Labour MPs elected before 2001. According to the list I have 11 MPs in the category you mention although I may have made a mistake: Gisela Stuart Caroline Flint Rosie Winterton Joan Ryan Maria Eagle Louise Ellman Siobhain McDonagh Yvette Cooper Fiona Mactaggart Helen Jones Karen Buck
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 22:12:15 GMT
According to my calculations, out of the 63 female Labour MPs who were first elected in 1997 and featured in the famous Blair Babes photograph, 10 are still in the House of Commons. 26 of them have retired; 28 lost their seats, one of whom became a retread (Joan Ryan of Enfield North). One has died (Fiona Jones). By far and away the most impressive survivor is Gisela Stuart of Birmingham Edgbaston. Most of the other nine survivors represent seats that were never going to be lost, one potential exception being Karen Buck in Westminster North. Sandra Osborne may well have lost her seat ten years earlier had the old Ayr constituency been left intact. I already have a document with Labour MPs elected before 2001. According to the list I have 11 MPs in the category you mention although I may have made a mistake: Gisela Stuart Caroline Flint Rosie Winterton Joan Ryan Maria Eagle Louise Ellman Siobhain McDonagh Yvette Cooper Fiona Mactaggart Helen Jones Karen Buck You're right. I appear to have missed out Yvette Cooper of all people. But you get the general drift.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 7, 2015 23:43:20 GMT
Karen Buck's seat now is significantly different to the one she won in 1997, and certainly can't be put in the "never going to be lost" category. (On the other hand, Regents Park and Kensington North was notionally Labour in 1992.)
Four on that list gained seats in 1997: Siobhain McDonagh Fiona Mactaggart Joan Ryan Gisela Stuart
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Post by maxque on Aug 8, 2015 4:51:18 GMT
Siobhain McDonagh? It's hard to believe Mitcham and Morden ever was Conservative, the Labour majority is huge (it's in fact biggen than the 1997 majority, I doubt there is many seats were the 2015 Labour majority is bigger than the 1997 one).
What happened there? Redistribution or huge demographical changes? Or the impact of Douglas-Mann defection in the 80's?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 8, 2015 8:56:45 GMT
It's not a change due to redistribution - the boundaries have barely changed at all. It's partly demographic change, but also local political factors: Siobhain McDonagh is a popular local MP, the local CLP is large and very active, and the local Conservatives have lurched off to the right and engaged in internal feuding.
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Post by neilm on Aug 8, 2015 9:13:54 GMT
I'd forgotten about Fiona Jones. A sad story indeed.
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 8, 2015 9:31:10 GMT
Siobhain McDonagh? It's hard to believe Mitcham and Morden ever was Conservative, the Labour majority is huge (it's in fact biggen than the 1997 majority, I doubt there is many seats were the 2015 Labour majority is bigger than the 1997 one). What happened there? Redistribution or huge demographical changes? Or the impact of Douglas-Mann defection in the 80's? Even harder to process now that the Tories won the 1982 by-election easily and Labour came third.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 11:07:34 GMT
It's not a change due to redistribution - the boundaries have barely changed at all. It's partly demographic change, but also local political factors: Siobhain McDonagh is a popular local MP, the local CLP is large and very active, and the local Conservatives have lurched off to the right and engaged in internal feuding. I would say it is almost entirely down to demographic change. The Conservatives have virtually no prospect of winning the seat back regardless of the efficiency of either local party.
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 8, 2015 12:11:40 GMT
It's not a change due to redistribution - the boundaries have barely changed at all. It's partly demographic change, but also local political factors: Siobhain McDonagh is a popular local MP, the local CLP is large and very active, and the local Conservatives have lurched off to the right and engaged in internal feuding. I would say it is almost entirely down to demographic change. The Conservatives have virtually no prospect of winning the seat back regardless of the efficiency of either local party. It is always demographic if the move is way outside national trends. It is never the activity of the member or the local party however much we may dearly love to think it. Good MPs have a modest effect and long term party organization can build up some effect but it is very ephemeral as the LDs have just demonstrated. Conservatives are not going to vote Labour because of a good Labour MP and brilliant Labour Party.
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Post by neilm on Aug 8, 2015 18:34:43 GMT
Of the current Lib Dem MPs: 1 was first elected in 1997 3 were first elected in 2001 4 were first elected in 2005 I was trying to think of this but I couldn't remember offhand when Carmichael was elected. Blimey, Tom Brake is our longest serving MP. What is even more striking is that in ten years one has gone from minor backbencher to Deputy Prime Minister and back again.
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Post by mick745 on Apr 5, 2016 8:40:02 GMT
There have been 2,930 Members of Parliament elected since 1945 - 2,531 at General Elections, 396 at By-Elections and three as a result of election petitions. This is a breakdown by Parliament:
| new MPs at GE | new MPs at B/Es | new MPs (petitions) | Total each Parl | Cumulative | 1945-1950 | 324 | 42 | 0 | 366 | 366 | 1950-1951 | 130 | 8 | 0 | 138 | 504 | 1951-1955 | 46 | 40 | 0 | 86 | 590 | 1955-1959 | 67 | 45 | 2 | 114 | 704 | 1959-1964 | 101 | 51 | 1 | 153 | 857 | 1964-1966 | 127 | 8 | 0 | 135 | 992 | 1966-1970 | 82 | 31 | 0 | 113 | 1105 | 1970-1974F | 138 | 24 | 0 | 162 | 1267 | 1974F-1974O | 108 | 0 | 0 | 108 | 1375 | 1974O-1979 | 36 | 26 | 0 | 62 | 1437 | 1979-1983 | 116 | 14 | 0 | 130 | 1567 | 1983-1987 | 150 | 16 | 0 | 166 | 1733 | 1987-1992 | 121 | 22 | 0 | 143 | 1876 | 1992-1997 | 127 | 18 | 0 | 145 | 2021 | 1997-2001 | 243 | 13 | 0 | 256 | 2277 | 2001-2005 | 92 | 6 | 0 | 98 | 2375 | 2005-2010 | 119 | 13 | 0 | 132 | 2507 | 2010-2015 | 227 | 18 | 0 | 245 | 2752 | 2015 | 177 | 1 | 0 | 178 | 2930 |
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| | | | Total | 2531 | 396 | 3 | 2930 | | % | 86.38% | 13.52% | 0.10% | |
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Post by mick745 on Apr 5, 2016 9:11:48 GMT
Of the 243 Members of Parliament first elected on 1 May 1997 there are 60 still sitting. This is a breakdown by Party and Gender: First elected in 1997: Party | Male | Female | Total | Con | 28 | 5 | 33 | Lab | 114 | 64 | 178 | LD | 24 | 2 | 26 | Oth | 6 | 0 | 6 |
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| Total | 172 | 71 | 243 |
Still sitting:
| Male | Female | Con | 18 | 3 | Lab | 26 | 11 | LD | 1 | 0 | Oth | 1 | 0 |
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| Total | 46 | 14 |
Five of these (all Labour, 4 male and 1 female) have non-consecutive service, John Cryer, Geraint Davies, Christopher Leslie, Joan Ryan and Stephen Twigg. Cheryl Gillan is the longest serving female Conservative MP, first elected in 1992.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 9, 2017 16:28:07 GMT
I've now got precise dates of birth for all but 16 post-war MPs. Of which three are current MPs who I expect will give their dates of birth in due course.
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