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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 9:45:30 GMT
link to breakdown of the pollDo you think Jesus would support or oppose renationalising the railways, so they are run in the public sector rather than by private companies? REALLY? Well that is what YOUGOV asked.
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Post by hedgehog on Nov 27, 2014 9:58:48 GMT
I think its good that a polling organisation has dared to ask a question like that, the phrasing makes you think about the issue in a different way.
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Post by woollyliberal on Nov 27, 2014 10:16:56 GMT
It's quite interesting. Twitter has decided that Jesus was a left leaning Lib Dem as a result of this. Though of course, the answers have more to do with the people polled than whether a 1st Century Jewish radical would nationalise the railways.
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Post by neilm on Nov 27, 2014 10:22:25 GMT
I wonder what Herod would have done.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 27, 2014 10:24:57 GMT
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Post by timokane on Nov 27, 2014 10:27:20 GMT
American pollsters might have the edge here. One reputable company asked 5000 Americans from all 50 states whether the earth was flat. 20% of Americans think it is, rising to 22% in the Bible Belt states. Extrapolated that means over 60 million people in one of the most educated countries in the world believe that because the bible refers to the four corners of the earth it cannot be anything other than flat. Mind you as I stated previously this is a country that thinks professional wrestling is for real but the moon landings were faked.
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Post by woollyliberal on Nov 27, 2014 10:30:42 GMT
I wonder what Herod would have done. He would have nationalised the railways, just so he could make sure they killed all the firstborn male children. Or something. |
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Post by woollyliberal on Nov 27, 2014 10:32:30 GMT
American pollsters might have the edge here. One reputable company asked 5000 Americans from all 50 states whether the earth was flat. 20% of Americans think it is, rising to 22% in the Bible Belt states. Extrapolated that means over 60 million people in one of the most educated countries in the world believe that because the bible refers to the four corners of the earth it cannot be anything other than flat. Mind you as I stated previously this is a country that thinks professional wrestling is for real but the moon landings were faked. Americans also think the number of guns in circulation has nothing to do with the number of gun deaths in their country. Their solution is even more guns. It's a bit like Labour's answer to debt is even more borrowing. |
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Post by timokane on Nov 27, 2014 10:36:41 GMT
So Jesus, facing execution by crucifixion , would oppose the death penalty. Quelle surprise. If only he'd been given a choice...... |
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Post by hedgehog on Nov 27, 2014 10:37:05 GMT
It's quite interesting. Twitter has decided that Jesus was a left leaning Lib Dem as a result of this. Though of course, the answers have more to do with the people polled than whether a 1st Century Jewish radical would nationalise the railways. What exactly is the lib dem policy on railways ? |
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Post by neilm on Nov 27, 2014 10:39:11 GMT
It's quite interesting. Twitter has decided that Jesus was a left leaning Lib Dem as a result of this. Though of course, the answers have more to do with the people polled than whether a 1st Century Jewish radical would nationalise the railways. What exactly is the lib dem policy on railways ? Depends which part of a target seat you're in... |
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Post by brothersideways on Nov 27, 2014 10:47:02 GMT
Based on the Bible, I think Jesus would have used the question about re-nationalising the railways as a metaphor for the kingdom of God.
Based on history, I think Jesus would ask what a railway is, what nationalisation is, what the public sector is, and what an opinion poll is. Actually, he'd probably just shrug and say "sorry, I don't understand you, do you speak Aramaic?"
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Post by woollyliberal on Nov 27, 2014 10:51:42 GMT
It's quite interesting. Twitter has decided that Jesus was a left leaning Lib Dem as a result of this. Though of course, the answers have more to do with the people polled than whether a 1st Century Jewish radical would nationalise the railways. What exactly is the lib dem policy on railways ? We're in favour of them. They're lovely. There should be more of them and people should use them more. My own view is that the delivery of the service is more important than the ownership of the means of production. If the third sector were better at running rail than public or private, we should let them. While there's lots to criticise about the current private sector arangement of the railways, I remember BR in the 80s. Let's not go back there. Perhaps we should try something new instead. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 27, 2014 14:41:35 GMT
link to breakdown of the pollDo you think Jesus would support or oppose renationalising the railways, so they are run in the public sector rather than by private companies? REALLY? Well that is what YOUGOV asked. I don't think this is right. I don't think that 24% of UKIP voters favour no restrictions on immigration. I believe that 24% of them think this is what Jesus would advocate. If I had been polled that is the answer I would have given. LIkewise I would believe that he would oppose the death penalty without that necessarily being my own view. There is clearly some element of people projecting their own views, most evident perhaps on the same sex marriage question, but it is not the case that everybody has answered that way as your substitution of the respondents for Jesus implies |
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Post by neilm on Nov 27, 2014 14:44:37 GMT
I wonder if they'll do a 'what would Mohmammed do?' question.
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Post by hedgehog on Nov 27, 2014 15:32:00 GMT
I wonder if they'll do a 'what would Mohmammed do?' question. Thankfully we are nominally still a christian nation, asking the prophet's views on railway nationalisation may be viewed in a similar way to creating a cartoon image of him. |
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 27, 2014 19:04:48 GMT
I think its good that a polling organisation has dared to ask a question like that, the phrasing makes you think about the issue in a different way. How would a quasi-mythical figure from over 2000-years ago feel about modern political administration of a transport system on an off-shore European country. It suggeat the answer "What?" Followed by "What is a railway?" Followed by "What is nationalization/ public ownership?" Followed by "I neither know nor care. Render unto Cameron that which is HSR-shaped." It is a monumentally daft question of utter bollocks-squeezing fatuity. |
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Post by hedgehog on Nov 27, 2014 20:06:52 GMT
A lot of us sometimes try to ask ourselves what would Jesus do before make a decision.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 28, 2014 5:57:29 GMT
I think its good that a polling organisation has dared to ask a question like that, the phrasing makes you think about the issue in a different way. No it doesn't, it makes me think about the pollster in a different way. |
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Post by woollyliberal on Nov 28, 2014 9:20:31 GMT
A lot of us sometimes try to ask ourselves what would Jesus do before make a decision. But what is remarkable about the YouGov results is how the answers seem to fit the demographics of the people surveyed far more than any scriptural text. Some people really do make Jesus in their own image. Bearing that in mind, reading the results becomes more "Morally, what should I do in this situation?" rather than "What would I do in this situation?". |
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