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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 3, 2014 11:12:50 GMT
Roger Lord has quit UKIP and resigned his council seat, and in an interesting twist he has endorsed the Lib Dems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 11:21:55 GMT
Roger Lord has quit UKIP and resigned his council seat, and in an interesting twist he has endorsed the Lib Dems. This election is apparently being scripted from an undiscovered manuscript by Tom Sharpe
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 3, 2014 11:25:51 GMT
Roger Lord was Conservative county councillor for Parsons Heath division 1989-93 (the division is in Colchester district). He won by under 100 but came in third place when he stood for re-election.
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 3, 2014 12:38:34 GMT
Roger Lord has quit UKIP and resigned his council seat, and in an interesting twist he has endorsed the Lib Dems. What a plonker. What a fizzle of anti-climax.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 3, 2014 12:58:38 GMT
Roger Lord has quit UKIP and resigned his council seat, and in an interesting twist he has endorsed the Lib Dems. There goes my free time for the next six eight weeks.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 3, 2014 14:14:18 GMT
But it isn't the norm. A handful of by - elections. And if we are serious about politics costing less.... ...we would have 600 MPs fighting similarly sized constituencies next year? We would have one not two houses of Parliament and strict limits on political spending and donations. More than one way to skin a cat.....only this one would really save money. Incidentally whose party is responsible for your solution not happening? Yours!
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 3, 2014 16:13:28 GMT
If the LDs have any sense they won't have anything to do with Roger Lord. You can't rely on someone who changes from UKIP to Con to LD in the space of a few days IMO.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 3, 2014 22:29:41 GMT
Incidentally worth noting that the appointment did not state that the Chancellor of the Exchequer had immediately released Mr Carswell from the office - in contrast to the appointment of David Davis. There was no need Davis to be released from the office, of course.
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 3, 2014 23:20:07 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Sept 3, 2014 23:50:22 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 4, 2014 0:04:30 GMT
They must be out of their minds.
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 4, 2014 7:44:30 GMT
That would make a real contest of it. Boris could return to Uxbridge later if he misses out on Clacton, as I think he would.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 4, 2014 9:00:50 GMT
Of course, the Survation poll asked how people would vote if Boris was Tory candidate - and it made naff all difference.
Tories "begging" him to stand are either delusional, or actively wish him ill.
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Post by neilm on Sept 4, 2014 9:45:55 GMT
He's endorsed one Lib Dem in particular rather than the Lib Dems as such.
Disclaimer- the Lib Dem in question is a personal friend of mine, and has been for several years.
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Post by Devonian on Sept 4, 2014 13:27:40 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Sept 4, 2014 13:53:55 GMT
That would make a real contest of it. Boris could return to Uxbridge later if he misses out on Clacton, as I think he would. The trouble is that if he did he would be immediately denounced by UKIP in Clacton as a carpettbagger, added to the fact that by the time the Conservatives pick their candidate UKIP will have had a virtual two week head start. Getting badly beaten by UKIP would do serious damage to his political 'brand'. Even in the best case scenario, if there was a massive upset and he managed by some unforseen turn of events to actually win. He would then have to commute regularly between Clacton and London whilst his great political rival David Cameron gained a massive boost from the deflation of the UKIP vote which would enable him to stay in the top job and Johnson to stay out of the Tory leadership. But Johnson has said on the radio the other day, when asked about this, that he believes in applying for one constituency at a time. Uxbridge and South Ruislip make their final decision on candidates on 12th September whilst Clacton are holding their primary on the 11th. What bad luck timing!
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Post by Devonian on Sept 4, 2014 14:46:03 GMT
I spotted this discussion of the Conservative strategy in the Clacton election from yesterday's Daily Politics show where they said the Tories were not going to fight this as hard as they fought Newark because they wanted to save money before the election.
A few things struck me about this. The first was 'isn't there supposed to be some spending limit on by elections that is way below £100,000?'. The second was that wanting to save money was a pretty poor excuse for not fully committing to what look to be the most politically important by election for a generation. Finally although I can understand the rationale behind not wanting to be seen to be trying too hard for a by election they then lose the Tories shouldn't want to make it too low key or there is a danger for the that Labour might catch them up in the poll. I don't think that is likely but I don't think it impossible either.
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 4, 2014 14:46:40 GMT
That would make a real contest of it. Boris could return to Uxbridge later if he misses out on Clacton, as I think he would. The trouble is that if he did he would be immediately denounced by UKIP in Clacton as a carpettbagger, added to the fact that by the time the Conservatives pick their candidate UKIP will have had a virtual two week head start. Getting badly beaten by UKIP would do serious damage to his political 'brand'. Even in the best case scenario, if there was a massive upset and he managed by some unforseen turn of events to actually win. He would then have to commute regularly between Clacton and London whilst his great political rival David Cameron gained a massive boost from the deflation of the UKIP vote which would enable him to stay in the top job and Johnson to stay out of the Tory leadership. But Johnson has said on the radio the other day, when asked about this, that he believes in applying for one constituency at a time. Uxbridge and South Ruislip make their final decision on candidates on 12th September whilst Clacton are holding their primary on the 11th. What bad luck timing! Masterful analysis. Now you can see why I want him to do it!
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 4, 2014 14:56:19 GMT
The election expenses limit for byelections is £100,000 regardless of the size of the electorate.
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Post by Devonian on Sept 4, 2014 15:06:06 GMT
The election expenses limit for byelections is £100,000 regardless of the size of the electorate. I had an idea it was lower than that. I stand corrected.
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