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Post by maxque on Aug 17, 2014 20:22:25 GMT
Newcastle upon Tyne - North Jesmond - Liberal Democrat resigned for work reasons (he got a job as professor at Keele University)
For the 2011-2015 seat.
2014: LD 621, Lab 589, Grn 277, Con 276, UKIP 144
2012: LD 978, Lab 523, Con 229
2011: LD 870, Lab 770, Con 419, Grn 273
2010: LD 1938, Lab 987, Con 945, Grn 281
2008: LD 1013/944, Lab 486/397, Con 371/340
2007: LD 1065, Lab 316, Con 311, Grn 202
2006: LD 1050, Lab 400, Con 290, Grn 190
2004: LD 1521/1260/1176, Lab 602/562/529, Con 433/370/368, Ind 193
Duncan Crute (The Conservative Party Candidate)
Gerard Keating (Liberal Democrats)
Shehla Naqvi (The Green Party)
Peter Smith (Labour and Co-operative Party Candidate)
Daniel Thompson (UK Independence Party (UK I P))
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 20:34:20 GMT
A few quick thoughts (born and raised in this ward):
The 2012 LD candidate is perceived as much better than the 2014 candidate and somewhat better than the 2011 candidate. (The councillor who resigned stood in 2011) The LD candidate for this election is a well liked previous councillor for the ward (who previously taught me latin).
This is a very student heavy ward, the students living in terraced streets either side of Osborne road at the South end of the seat.The non-student streets at the North of the ward towards the Jesmond/Gosforth border are for the most part the wealthiest areas in Newcastle. Expect the LDs to do quite a lot better without the students.
The LDs have put out glossy high-quality A4 literature. The tories have put out a scrappy poorly written non-glossy A4 leaflet. The only knock at the door has come from labour (no literature from them though). Greens invisible, UKIP candidate has been riding around the ward in an expensive looking Mercedes with UKIP flags attached to the roof looking a bit ridiculous.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 17, 2014 21:18:23 GMT
Gerry Keating, who is the Liberal Democrat candidate, is a former councillor (Blakelaw ward 1986-2012). He was appointed hon Alderman in November 2012.
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 17, 2014 23:02:02 GMT
Gerry Keating, who is the Liberal Democrat candidate, is a former councillor (Blakelaw ward 1986-2012). He was appointed hon Alderman in November 2012. On the basis of you never know what the future might bring, that's an office I would gladly see phased out, especially as it grants special privileges indefinitely for an unelected position. Have any councils done so? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 17, 2014 23:08:14 GMT
I'm not sure it does grant any special privileges beyond the right to call yourself 'hon Alderman' and to participate in some civic ceremonies.
And the title is taken away if you get back on the council.
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Post by maxque on Aug 17, 2014 23:50:44 GMT
I'm not sure it does grant any special privileges beyond the right to call yourself 'hon Alderman' and to participate in some civic ceremonies. And the title is taken away if you get back on the council. According to the Newcastle City Council website: Honours | Newcastle City Council |
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 18, 2014 0:20:40 GMT
I'm not sure it does grant any special privileges beyond the right to call yourself 'hon Alderman' and to participate in some civic ceremonies. And the title is taken away if you get back on the council. According to the Newcastle City Council website: Honours | Newcastle City CouncilNumbers 1, 2, 5 and 6 look similar to our arrangement in Portsmouth. They also have a distinctive robe to wear if they wish to robe (red instead of blue). All and all a privileged position that only ex-councillors have available to them and it's indefinite (and any councillor who's been on the council ten years or more is eligible with the agreement of full council). Not something I support, especially as it gives an opportunity to abuse the position with no recourse to the electorate or any accountibility for misbehaviour. |
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Post by maxque on Aug 18, 2014 0:39:48 GMT
Numbers 1, 2, 5 and 6 look similar to our arrangement in Portsmouth. They also have a distinctive robe to wear if they wish to robe (red instead of blue). All and all a privileged position that only ex-councillors have available to them and it's indefinite (and any councillor who's been on the council ten years or more is eligible with the agreement of full council). Not something I support, especially as it gives an opportunity to abuse the position with no recourse to the electorate or any accountibility for misbehaviour. Newcastle seems to be 16 years or being a former Mayor or Leader. They have 19 Honorary Aldermen. If one comes back to council, the title is "suspended" until they leave council again. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 18, 2014 9:21:43 GMT
Cambridge calls them 'Honorary Councillors' and the award of the post is in the gift of the ruling group - there's no minimum service requirement that I'm aware of.
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Post by mrhell on Aug 18, 2014 13:34:04 GMT
I'll go through a few things having lived in the ward most of my life (31 years since I was 7 years old which doesn't include 4 years as a student in Hull). I was also agent for the old Jesmond ward between 1996 and 2000 which includes all of this ward. Joe isn't strictly right about a North/South split. It's more of an East/West of Osborne Road split with the large majority of multi occupancy houses in the West part. The confusion about which ward Gerry is a former councillor for hasn't been helped by www.jesmondlocal.com getting it wrong. Gerry's lived in Jesmond for 14 years and is the husband is Lucy Keating who was a councillor here from 2000 to 2008. I've received leaflets from us (I've delivered elsewhere), Labour and UKIP. I've also received a postal vote letter from UKIP which was also posted to one of our councillors and one of Labour's South Jesmond councillors who both live in the ward (I mean actually all sent by second-class post). I've seen the Conservative A4 in a couple of places but I haven't received it. I haven't seen any Green activity. We've even had a hustings event! There's also been one in 2012 and 2014. This one was on transport issues, has been filmed and is on here. candidates in the video are from left to right Smith (Labour), Naqvi (Green), Crute (Conservative), Keating (Lib Dem) and Thompson (UKIP). If you want some humour just go to 1.52.28 where former Labour councillor Bill Dodds mentions that the UKIP candidate always parks in the cycle lane outside his own house on Gosforth High Street and Daniel Thompson responds that his house was there before the cycle lane (I'm in the shot in the back row wearing a black t-shirt). Daniel's reply to a partially-sighted women's query across crossing Osborne Road is 'interesting' at 1.02.40. I'd met him at the count in May and he sounded incredibly bitter that he'd finished fourth out of four in West Gosforth. His performance on certain occasions here didn't surprise me at all. Also at some point Peter Smith the Labour made it clear that he doesn't like Tony Blair. On the issue of Aldermen the advantage of using Members' catering facilities isn't that useful seeing as we got rid of them not long after coming to power in 2004! I have never seen an alderman or councillor in robes bar the Lord Mayor and the Sheriff. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 14:18:26 GMT
I'll go through a few things having lived in the ward most of my life (31 years since I was 7 years old which doesn't include 4 years as a student in Hull). I was also agent for the old Jesmond ward between 1996 and 2000 which includes all of this ward. Joe isn't strictly right about a North/South split. It's more of an East/West of Osborne Road split with the large majority of multi occupancy houses in the West part. The confusion about which ward Gerry is a former councillor for hasn't been helped by www.jesmondlocal.com getting it wrong. Gerry's lived in Jesmond for 14 years and is the husband is Lucy Keating who was a councillor here from 2000 to 2008. I've received leaflets from us (I've delivered elsewhere), Labour and UKIP. I've also received a postal vote letter from UKIP which was also posted to one of our councillors and one of Labour's South Jesmond councillors who both live in the ward (I mean actually all sent by second-class post). I've seen the Conservative A4 in a couple of places but I haven't received it. I haven't seen any Green activity. We've even had a hustings event! There's also been one in 2012 and 2014. This one was on transport issues, has been filmed and is on here. candidates in the video are from left to right Smith (Labour), Naqvi (Green), Crute (Conservative), Keating (Lib Dem) and Thompson (UKIP). If you want some humour just go to 1.52.28 where former Labour councillor Bill Dodds mentions that the UKIP candidate always parks in the cycle lane outside his own house on Gosforth High Street and Daniel Thompson responds that his house was there before the cycle lane (I'm in the shot in the back row wearing a black t-shirt). Daniel's reply to a partially-sighted women's query across crossing Osborne Road is 'interesting' at 1.02.40. I'd met him at the count in May and he sounded incredibly bitter that he'd finished fourth out of four in West Gosforth. His performance on certain occasions here didn't surprise me at all. Also at some point Peter Smith the Labour made it clear that he doesn't like Tony Blair. On the issue of Aldermen the advantage of using Members' catering facilities isn't that useful seeing as we got rid of them not long after coming to power in 2004! I have never seen an alderman or councillor in robes bar the Lord Mayor and the Sheriff. Streets with the affluence of Towers Avenue Mitchell, Lindisfarne, Glastonbury, Adderstone Castleton etc. are only to be found at the north end. The South-east part may be a fair bit less studenty (although there is still quite a bit), but its also not quite as affluent as the North.  Perhaps the best description would be a combination of our descriptions. 1 = Jesmond Dene: Very wealthy, detached housing. Strongly LD (Tories in 2nd?) 2 = Terraced Streets mostly but not exclusively non-students. Not as wealthy as 1. Popular with academic types. Competitive between LD and Labour, LDs probably infront (MrHell would know better than me on that) 3 = Student Terraces Land - Labour. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 18, 2014 15:29:45 GMT
Given student turnout, would the Lib Dems really have been in front in your section 2 when the ward has looked competitive?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 15:53:10 GMT
Given student turnout, would the Lib Dems really have been in front in your section 2 when the ward has looked competitive? Im not sure. MrHell will know much better than me. Section 3 contains the most number of actual people though looking at the sheer number of streets, so this probably compensates for the low turnout. |
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Post by mrhell on Aug 19, 2014 19:22:15 GMT
Section 3 is rather diverse. The part where St George's Terrace is and further East are different from the parts going West until the Metro line (the latter is the main student area). The part West of the Metro line has students (especially to the South). Highbury at the top is totally different from the terraces going off it. That section West of the Metro line was in Moorside ward until 1983 meaning it was cut off from the rest of Moorside by the Town Moor!
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Post by mrhell on Aug 23, 2014 17:54:42 GMT
We've had Labour delivering in East Gosforth (only one side of Jesmond Dene Road is in the ward). Now we've had UKIP canvassing in South Jesmond by mistake. I actually passed the UKIP candidate on Acorn Road (main shopping area in the ward) while I was on my way to deliver leaflets. I did have a quiet listen and he was talking to a Green voter who said UKIP was a far right party. He was continuing to talk to the voter. I don't like UKIP but would say far right is too much but what's the point in continuing talking to someone who has no intention of voting for you and hates your party.
Seen a Green A4 when out delivering today.
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Post by AdminSTB on Aug 27, 2014 13:48:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 13:01:41 GMT
Have newcastle contracted out their election management to tower hamlets?
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Post by mrhell on Aug 28, 2014 19:53:59 GMT
Battery running low so I'll post now. We've definitely won. Perhaps near 300 majority. Might be overstating as some retisence among people to say how they voted. Close between other three but poor for Greens and Tories.
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Post by mrhell on Aug 28, 2014 21:45:11 GMT
Clear LD win. Counting votes now.
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Post by mrhell on Aug 28, 2014 21:59:15 GMT
Stunning.
LD 711
Lab 320
U 112
C 117
G 94
There was great amusement at the count when one of the three disallowed ballots was disallowed because the voter had written on it that they wouldn't vote for us because they'd worked with our candidate!
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