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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 10:11:38 GMT
Membership could be free for the first 50 members (eg. us)  Who is "us"? Any member of this site who would want to join. |
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jun 11, 2014 14:51:42 GMT
I can do Wales post 1973 (but should point out that at the start wards were more numerical than names)
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Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Jun 11, 2014 16:23:45 GMT
One valuable project we could pursue, as a society, would be the creation of a comprehensive electoral database, covering not just national and regional elections, but all municipal authorities since 1900. (In a perfect world, we would be able to go back as far as the Municipal Corporations Act, but such ambition would probably outrun the records and our resources.) There would also be maps of historic wards, whose outlines could be superimposed on contemporary maps. An associated project might be a model database for recording and publishing the results from contemporary elections, including statistics such as polling district turnout, which could be licensed to local authorities for their use. That would depend on having people with the relevant IT experience. One big obstacle this would throw up is that so many members here have devoted their own time to building their own personal records. Their data, experience and time would be invaluable; but I strongly feel they should not be compelled to add this to the common stock unless they wish, and that any potential claims over intellectual property should be fairly dealt with beforehand. All that, assuming goodwill, will probably mean legal obstacles and some expense. Sorry to be late to this, but I'm not sure that is what the proposed society was going to be for, in fact in some ways the contrary - if we were able to persuade people to report, record and archive results in a sensible and accessible way it would be unnecessary. Such a job would be huge and possibly distract from the primary purposes of persuading Councils and the media of the importance of electoral data, |
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Post by Tangent on Jun 27, 2014 22:19:09 GMT
Before going further, I was hoping that James, as originator of the concept, would vet our suggestions....
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Post by Rose Tinted Lane on Aug 13, 2014 15:44:27 GMT
I would start off by assuming a de facto membership of all registered users of this forum. We would elect a general-purpose committee of five or six posters, in order to i) decide exactly what the association should do; ii) work out an internal constitution, including voting arrangements; iii) develop coherent Articles of Association that embody these views; iv) set up a discrete database of members of the Association. (Once this last task has been completed, members of this forum who are members would be allowed access to a sub-forum on matters of management and organisation only - other discussions instigated by the association, I hope, would still be open to all.) Once those who have actively decided to become members approve the set-up under these new tasks, the g-p committee would then give way to the formally constituted association, and we would take it from there. Sorry to rake this back up. PsephSoc still seems like a good idea. Tangent's post above still seems like the sensible way to proceed. We need articles of association, or at least a firm set of aims for the Society, possibly based on the following: "The Psephological Society exists to promote efficient and transparent administration of elections in the United Kingdom. The Society concerns itself with the dissemination of information before, during and after the elections themselves, and will work in partnership with councils, returning officers, interested national organisations, and the media, to ensure that public access to information is as open and deep as possible. The Society is a political, but non-party, organisation, open to all those interested in the analysis and study of elections, and all collateral matters. The society is concerned with: - all regular elections to European, national, regional and local authority bodies in the United Kingdom - by-elections to said bodies The Society will act as a critical friend to concerned organisations, and respondent to consultations on: - accessibility and presentation standards - use of modern (social) media - management of election counts - clear analysis - boundary reviews - media presentation and commentary on elections" ---------- Perhaps we should begin by asking someone to start a database of members: what details would be need? Just name, address and email? A separate thread should be started for each of the Society Constitution and the Articles of Association (Aims), with a model template proposed as the first post in each thread. Members of this forum can then contribute, amend and make suggestions. After a set period of time (a month?), those members who have provided their names and email addresses to the database-holder will be sent an e-mail asking them to vote on each of the two documents. If those documents are approved, we can then proceed with electing an executive committee who can set up a bank account/website/twitter account. That way, any member of this site can participate, but voting is done by actual members. Perhaps a trusted member of the site can administrate these first elections, or some agreeable third party? What do people think of this as a way to proceed? |
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Adrian
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Post by Adrian on Sept 11, 2014 14:49:07 GMT
Hello - not been around for a while; I see you've been busy. I'm happy to join.
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Sept 11, 2014 17:15:57 GMT
I can do Wales post 1973 (but should point out that at the start wards were more numerical than names) Maps would help too.... |
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Sept 11, 2014 17:54:25 GMT
I can do Wales post 1973 (but should point out that at the start wards were more numerical than names) Maps would help too.... Maps from 1995 onwards no problems at all, pre 1973 they would be only very simple ones I'm afraid |
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Sept 11, 2014 18:36:12 GMT
Sorry if I seem to "take charge" with this post, but we need to move this forward somehow. If no one objects, this is what I propose we do
- I like the Statement of Aims posted above by Rose Tinted Lane, and I think we should accept this document for now at least, subject to a vote once we have finalised membership.
- I will be posting some detailed suggestions on the composition and selection of the ruling body of the association in the next few days, which can hopefully form a basis for discussion. This is only to facilitate a way forward and is very open to changes. Ultimatly this can be turned into a full constitutional document.
- But fundamentally, we need an agreed membership. In this regard, I would suggest that someone needs to be "membership officer" pro tem and anyone wanting to join email basic details to that person to add to a database. Only people who join would then be able to vote on approval of documents and the initial elections to what I propose we call the "Council" of the Society. Said basic information would probably be: name, email and ideally address, with anyone who doesn't want to provide an address at this stage being able to give maybe their constituency or local authority.
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Post by greatkingrat on Sept 11, 2014 20:17:27 GMT
The lack of posting on this thread leads me to wonder if there is actually sufficient interest to be worth proceeding?
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Sept 11, 2014 20:30:44 GMT
Well several people have posted ideas, but momentum seems to have been lost.
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Adrian
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Post by Adrian on Sept 12, 2014 14:52:10 GMT
What I'd like to see is a journal and accompanying blog, and regular meetups and conferences. I mention the journal and blog because most people interested in this topic are not academics but have done all sorts of valuable research over the recent past but it's either never been published, or come out in dribs and drabs on forums, or appeared on far-flung webpages that get ignored or forgotten. I envision the PsephSoc being analogous to the ERS.
Perhaps we could approach an electoral-science academic to sponsor the society, i.e. give it some of their time and space, since there's quite a symbiosis between the academic and lay sides of psephology.
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Post by londonderryscoundrel on Oct 4, 2014 22:04:21 GMT
I've only just stumbled upon this concept and it looks very interesting. I'd be willing to help with any Northern Ireland stuff if required
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Post by thomas on Jul 20, 2015 21:34:13 GMT
Googling "psephological society uk" took me here.
Hullo
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 20, 2015 21:41:02 GMT
Googling "psephological society uk" took me here. Hullo Hullo Thomas. You have paid the requisite subscription at the entrance, I presume? |
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Post by thomas on Jul 20, 2015 21:47:56 GMT
I had a coupon.
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slon
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Post by slon on Jul 21, 2015 13:41:42 GMT
 Can you identify this scene |
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Post by neilm on Jul 21, 2015 13:51:58 GMT
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jul 21, 2015 14:57:41 GMT
About 3 miles away is the closest.
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slon
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Post by slon on Jul 21, 2015 15:09:04 GMT
About 3 miles away is the closest. Rue D'Aerschot? |
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