Izzyeviel
Lib Dem
I stayed up for Hartlepools
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Post by Izzyeviel on Jan 6, 2021 23:58:42 GMT
Welcome to the forum!
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jan 7, 2021 18:01:57 GMT
Hi Matt, welcome to the forum. The issue with the monthly EONI electorate data is that the Westminster Parliament electorates are only given for the obsolete wards that the current constituencies were constructed from. These wards date back to 1995 and were replaced in 2011 by an entirely new set of wards for the 11 enlarged councils. EONI only provide local government electorates for the current wards. A request from one of my NI contacts to produce Westminster electorates for current wards was rejected, but they will have to do so at some point for the 2023 review. Ah sorry. That is annoying... And thanks for the welcome! Since I posted the reply above my Twitter follower in Northern Ireland has been back in touch with data EONI sent him after a further request, so it looks as if we do have something to work with now.
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jan 7, 2021 18:05:52 GMT
Wales and five of the nine English regions have now been updated with March 2020 electorates.
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 7, 2021 18:11:20 GMT
Wales and five of the nine English regions have now been updated with March 2020 electorates. Which five?
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jan 7, 2021 18:16:05 GMT
Wales and five of the nine English regions have now been updated with March 2020 electorates. Which five? The Northern three and Midlands two.
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Post by edgbaston on Jan 7, 2021 18:16:40 GMT
The Northern three and Midlands two. Right answer!
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 7, 2021 18:19:06 GMT
The Northern three and Midlands two. Yay! They include the one I wanted to look at.
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Post by greenhert on Jan 7, 2021 18:20:00 GMT
The Northern three and Midlands two. That was quick-I was not expecting them until next week.
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iain
Lib Dem
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Post by iain on Jan 7, 2021 19:23:33 GMT
Wales and five of the nine English regions have now been updated with March 2020 electorates. I think you still have the quota set as if the numbers hadn’t been updated?
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jan 7, 2021 19:42:25 GMT
Wales and five of the nine English regions have now been updated with March 2020 electorates. I think you still have the quota set as if the numbers hadn’t been updated? Where are you seeing that? The quota shown in the top right part of the page is a regional quota, so is lower for example in the North East which just makes 27 seats compared with the East Midlands which just falls short of 48.
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iain
Lib Dem
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Post by iain on Jan 7, 2021 19:45:08 GMT
I think you still have the quota set as if the numbers hadn’t been updated? Where are you seeing that? The quota shown in the top right part of the page is a regional quota, so is lower for example in the North East which just makes 27 seats compared with the East Midlands which just falls short of 48. Ah right, yes - though isn't there going to be a single UK wide quota for the review?
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jan 7, 2021 19:54:30 GMT
Where are you seeing that? The quota shown in the top right part of the page is a regional quota, so is lower for example in the North East which just makes 27 seats compared with the East Midlands which just falls short of 48. Ah right, yes - though isn't there going to be a single UK wide quota for the review? Yes, it is 73,393, but when creating a regional plan it is I think more helpful to have regard to the regional quota.
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Post by edgbaston on Jan 7, 2021 20:33:32 GMT
Ah right, yes - though isn't there going to be a single UK wide quota for the review? Yes, it is 73,393, but when creating a regional plan it is I think more helpful to have regard to the regional quota. So can seats have an electorate either within the regional or national quota?
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jan 7, 2021 21:08:13 GMT
Yes, it is 73,393, but when creating a regional plan it is I think more helpful to have regard to the regional quota. So can seats have an electorate either within the regional or national quota? There is a UK quota which is the total UK electorate (minus the five protected island areas) divided by 645. The upper and lower limits for all countries* and regions are calculated as +/- 5% of this number. So a UK quota of 73,393 gives us a lower limit of 69,724 and upper limit of 77,062 which applies to all*. However the allocation process between countries and regions means that some will have an average electorate, that I am calling a regional quota, nearer to the lower or upper limit. It is helpful to bear this in mind when creating a plan especially in smaller regions like the North East. * there is a derogation for Northern Ireland where the lower limit may be lowered based on the regional quota. The March 2020 electorates give a lower limit of 68,313.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 7, 2021 21:09:49 GMT
The Northern three and Midlands two. Yay! They include the one I wanted to look at. You only wanted to look at one ? I always knew you were a weirdo
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 7, 2021 21:23:01 GMT
Yay! They include the one I wanted to look at. You only wanted to look at one ? I always knew you were a weirdo West Mids is the only one I feel I know well enough to draw decent maps for a very large chunk of the region.
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jan 9, 2021 14:09:19 GMT
Now updated for Northern Ireland, Eastern, South East and South West. If you don't see the new options try reloading from the boundaryassistant.org home page. The NI data is not from an official release but was provided by EONI in response to a request. Buckinghamshire, Cornwall and Wiltshire will be reviewed using new unitary ward boundaries for which we don't yet have electorates. London should be updated some time next week. The Boundary Commission for Scotland do not plan to release ward electorates until the Spring.
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Post by kevinlarkin on Jan 11, 2021 17:34:09 GMT
March 2020 electorates for London now added to Plan Builder. Includes future boundaries for Lewisham and Enfield but 13 other boroughs will be reviewed using future boundaries for which electorates are not yet available. Thanks to Peter Wilkinson for deciphering the Enfield ward data.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 11, 2021 18:27:44 GMT
March 2020 electorates for London now added to Plan Builder. Includes future boundaries for Lewisham and Enfield but 13 other boroughs will be reviewed using future boundaries for which electorates are not yet available. Thanks to Peter Wilkinson for deciphering the Enfield ward data. Which boroughs?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 11, 2021 18:34:41 GMT
I'm thinking it's largely in the Middlesex boroughs - Brent, Harrow, Barnet, Hillingdon etc which have been giving me some problems but which I've found solutions for (which will probably end up not working on the new boundaries). I've gotten into a terrible mess in South London though so hopefully there might be some relief there
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