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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 4, 2020 13:13:48 GMT
Is it just me, or is the website down? It's just you
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Post by WJ on Jul 4, 2020 13:24:31 GMT
Hmmm, odd. I'll check again in a few hours
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Post by greenchristian on Jul 4, 2020 14:24:05 GMT
Is it just me, or is the website down? Just you. For future reference, if you type "is it down" into pretty much any search engine, you'll find about half a dozen different websites which will check whether a website being down is just you.
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Post by kevinlarkin on Aug 3, 2020 9:27:30 GMT
Just trying out a couple of image hosting options, let me know if you can NOT see either of the maps below. OneDrive Google Drive
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Aug 3, 2020 11:13:08 GMT
Both look fine (and very interesting!) to me.
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Post by European Lefty on Aug 3, 2020 20:42:03 GMT
Just trying out a couple of image hosting options, let me know if you can NOT see either of the maps below. OneDrive Google Drive Do some of those wards have polling districts displayed?
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Post by kevinlarkin on Aug 3, 2020 21:36:42 GMT
Do some of those wards have polling districts displayed? Yes, although the purpose of the post was to test the possibility of using cloud storage like OneDrive and Google Drive as an alternative to a dedicated image hosting website. Conclusion so far is that OneDrive works quite well, Google requires some jiggery-pokery but this could be automated. DropBox and iCloud have not been tested yet. There are six split wards in this West Yorks plan which I am using to test a new feature that will be available soon. The three in Calderdale and Kirklees are split by polling district while the three in Leeds have been split by drawing a shape to bisect the ward, as there has been a ward review in Leeds since 2015 and polling district boundaries released then no longer align with the new wards.
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Post by kevinlarkin on Aug 5, 2020 16:40:05 GMT
Updated version of Plan Builder: - Google Satellite as an alternative base map.
- Split wards by polling district. This is available for London Boroughs and most Metropolitan boroughs plus the four 'Humberside' unitaries. The 2019 electorates are extrapolated from the 2015 data on the basis of a uniform change across PDs within each ward. If there has been a full ward review since 2015 this option is not available for plans based on 2019 electorates. Eight Mets were excluded entirely as there was a mismatch between the number of PDs in the BCE electorate data and the number in the Ordnance Survey boundaries. A lot of the BCE data was mixed up (they appear to have tried to merge data from two sources on the assumption that both data sets had the same sort order) so many corrections were required. It is possible that some errors were missed.
- Split wards by drawing a polygon to clip a part of the ward.
- Thank you to everyone who has contributed towards the site's running costs. I have switched off the nag message that popped up after each 100 page loads.
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Post by kevinlarkin on Aug 5, 2020 16:46:12 GMT
These videos don't have audio but if you switch on captions the steps to take are described on screen.
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 5, 2020 17:14:50 GMT
Updated version of Plan Builder: - Google Satellite as an alternative base map.
- Split wards by polling district. This is available for London Boroughs and most Metropolitan boroughs plus the four 'Humberside' unitaries. The 2019 electorates are extrapolated from the 2015 data on the basis of a uniform change across PDs within each ward. If there has been a full ward review since 2015 this option is not available for plans based on 2019 electorates. Eight Mets were excluded entirely as there was a mismatch between the number of PDs in the BCE electorate data and the number in the Ordnance Survey boundaries. A lot of the BCE data was mixed up (they appear to have tried to merge data from two sources on the assumption that both data sets had the same sort order) so many corrections were required. It is possible that some errors were missed.
- Split wards by drawing a polygon to clip a part of the ward.
- Thank you to everyone who has contributed towards the site's running costs. I have switched off the nag message that popped up after each 100 page loads.
Can you split any ward using the freehand tool or just those which can be split by Polling District?
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Post by kevinlarkin on Aug 5, 2020 17:23:43 GMT
Can you split any ward using the freehand tool or just those which can be split by Polling District? Any ward. One proviso, it doesn't work very well with coastal wards that have lots of islands, such as those in the West of Scotland. This needs some work but I am hopeful that Scotland will release electorates by polling district as part of the review as they now have almost complete and up to date mapping.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 5, 2020 17:49:13 GMT
Updated version of Plan Builder: - Google Satellite as an alternative base map.
- Split wards by polling district. This is available for London Boroughs and most Metropolitan boroughs plus the four 'Humberside' unitaries. The 2019 electorates are extrapolated from the 2015 data on the basis of a uniform change across PDs within each ward. If there has been a full ward review since 2015 this option is not available for plans based on 2019 electorates. Eight Mets were excluded entirely as there was a mismatch between the number of PDs in the BCE electorate data and the number in the Ordnance Survey boundaries. A lot of the BCE data was mixed up (they appear to have tried to merge data from two sources on the assumption that both data sets had the same sort order) so many corrections were required. It is possible that some errors were missed.
- Split wards by drawing a polygon to clip a part of the ward.
- Thank you to everyone who has contributed towards the site's running costs. I have switched off the nag message that popped up after each 100 page loads.
If we have local data on polling districts that you don't have, is there a way to get it to you?
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Post by kevinlarkin on Aug 5, 2020 18:39:10 GMT
If we have local data on polling districts that you don't have, is there a way to get it to you? I don't really want to get in to the business of accepting lots of different data sets from different sources, in different formats. That it is a bit too much like my day job. I know that some of the post-2015 polling district boundaries are available online, including those for Sheffield, but do you have the parliamentary electorate figures for these polling districts? We are really waiting for the March 2020 numbers to be released by the English and Scottish commissions and to see what, if any, sub-ward data they will provide. Today's changes to the app are more about showing what could be done with polling district data rather than trying to provide a complete data set.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Aug 5, 2020 18:46:45 GMT
Do you have any plans to add polling district data for the unitary counties?
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 5, 2020 19:00:01 GMT
One interesting point is that this new update unintentionally allows you to create plans for council wards, and not just constituencies. For example, one of the Gateshead wards was a little out of the 10% tolerance, so I used the polling district tool to shift a few areas around and produce a better set of boundaries.
It's probably only academic (the data isn't really reliable enough for suggestion at a review), but it's definitely an interesting exercise.
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Post by European Lefty on Aug 5, 2020 19:02:03 GMT
Updated version of Plan Builder: - Google Satellite as an alternative base map.
- Split wards by polling district. This is available for London Boroughs and most Metropolitan boroughs plus the four 'Humberside' unitaries. The 2019 electorates are extrapolated from the 2015 data on the basis of a uniform change across PDs within each ward. If there has been a full ward review since 2015 this option is not available for plans based on 2019 electorates. Eight Mets were excluded entirely as there was a mismatch between the number of PDs in the BCE electorate data and the number in the Ordnance Survey boundaries. A lot of the BCE data was mixed up (they appear to have tried to merge data from two sources on the assumption that both data sets had the same sort order) so many corrections were required. It is possible that some errors were missed.
- Split wards by drawing a polygon to clip a part of the ward.
- Thank you to everyone who has contributed towards the site's running costs. I have switched off the nag message that popped up after each 100 page loads.
That looks amazing, thank you for all your hard work in providing us all with this amazing tool!
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 5, 2020 19:25:50 GMT
If we have local data on polling districts that you don't have, is there a way to get it to you? I don't really want to get in to the business of accepting lots of different data sets from different sources, in different formats. That it is a bit too much like my day job. I know that some of the post-2015 polling district boundaries are available online, including those for Sheffield, but do you have the parliamentary electorate figures for these polling districts? Export from EARS Connect by polling district filtered by "entitlement=Parliament", or go to the local library. Somebody will undoubtly tell me off for exporting total electorate figures from Connect. Y'know, public data available publically at the public library.
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Post by European Lefty on Aug 5, 2020 19:35:42 GMT
For some reason the split by polling district option isn't showing up for me? EDIT: never mind, I've got it, for London at least
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 5, 2020 19:39:18 GMT
For some reason the split by polling district option isn't showing up for me? EDIT: never mind, I've got it, for London at least It only appears if you select a ward with PD boundary data.
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Post by kevinlarkin on Aug 5, 2020 19:52:16 GMT
Do you have any plans to add polling district data for the unitary counties? I don't think wards should be split here, there and everywhere, so drew up a list of local authorities where ward splits might be necessary based on the single criterion of more than 50% of wards having an electorate greater than 10% of the UK quota. None of the new unitary counties in England met this test, although Buckinghamshire probably will. Trying to make sense of the BCE data is so much hassle that I don't think I will be adding more polling district data until official March 2020 numbers are available. I am not expecting this before February 2021 at the earliest.
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