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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 10:14:39 GMT
not sure EAL they make decisions and won;t be affected by them, that is the principle really. All politicians make decision they are not affected by. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 11:28:14 GMT
but when you make say a decision to cut the bin service and do not live in that authority, that for me is wrong.
It is not asking too much for a councillor to pay the council tax in the area he sits on.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 31, 2013 12:30:07 GMT
Given there are elections next year no excuse: I think they should resign now as its obvious they cannot represent the area properly.
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 31, 2013 12:40:39 GMT
On the strict point I would leave it to the electorate who I believe are far less exercised than the anoraks. I would contend that at least a third of representatives are totally and absolutely useless and it makes not a whit of difference if they are present or not (except as a vote for their faction). Of the remainder many, whilst not useless are venal and malign and their absence would be a benefit. There is no principle here. A move just outside the boundary is inconsequential. Even a move of 50-miles might still leave them as the most effective person on the council. Proximity is of very little real importance any more than it is for a Director or a Lawyer. It is how one thinks and what one decides that matters. All this...'Must be there to be called upon by concerned residents'....'Might vote to reduce bin collection, yet has no personal bin effected'...is trite and specious trivial nonsense. The problem with local authorities is as has always been about the quality and input of the representatives, not where they live, how often they speak or access to the public. I don't want Tescos run by someone 'near the factory' or even English...just someone competent and excellent. I don't have a dentist who lives close (110-miles away) but one I like and who feels same way about issues. Localism is important to undertand issues from personal experience, but most of us never want nor need to have any contact at all. We want competence and common sense and I would prefer a man resident at Penzance who reads and understands all the papers and who is good at taking appropriate decisions...providing he is prepared to travel for important meetings at own expense.
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Post by Pimpernal on Oct 31, 2013 13:09:46 GMT
The latest rumours going around are that they wanted to resign but were 'persuaded' not to... who by and for what reason is fast becoming the main focus here...
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Post by timokane on Oct 31, 2013 19:23:01 GMT
Presumably this couple have jobs to go to in their new home, because a benefit trap awaits them if they don't. If they were on, say £5 k each allowances as ward councillors and were to claim JSA or ESA at the new place, they would be automatically knocked back on any payments until the end of their term of office because they ended their contract voluntarily.
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Post by Pimpernal on Nov 1, 2013 8:36:36 GMT
Presumably this couple have jobs to go to in their new home, because a benefit trap awaits them if they don't. If they were on, say £5 k each allowances as ward councillors and were to claim JSA or ESA at the new place, they would be automatically knocked back on any payments until the end of their term of office because they ended their contract voluntarily. O may be wrong, but I think they might both receive pensions... |
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Post by keithn on Nov 1, 2013 12:37:38 GMT
Good piece on BBC South East on this last night. The Willicombes declined to appear on air (well, they are a long way away now!) so instead the job was left to council leader Andrew Bowles in his kitchen, looking distinctly uncomfortable. He argued that 75% of a councillors' work can be done remotely - by phone, letter or email. Even if it this is true, what about the other 25%?
Incidentally, I couldn't help but notice that the BBC reporter was wearing a purple shirt and a purple tie. #justsaying
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Post by mrhell on Nov 1, 2013 14:55:26 GMT
they may think they are saving the Tories a UKIP defeat but this action has virtually assured a defeat in 18 months time as your leaflets Pimp can be written now ? An assured defeat in a ward which will be abolished in 18 months time? |
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Post by Pimpernal on Nov 1, 2013 15:06:49 GMT
they may think they are saving the Tories a UKIP defeat but this action has virtually assured a defeat in 18 months time as your leaflets Pimp can be written now ? An assured defeat in a ward which will be abolished in 18 months time? Hardly abolished! The redrawn Woodstock ward takes in a few new areas and loses a couple of others but is in essence pretty much the same area of Sittingbourne... |
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 1, 2013 15:23:02 GMT
It looks like the new Woodstock ward takes more of its electorate from the old St Michaels ward than the old Woodstock ward.
Strangely the new Woodstock ward no longer contains the village of Woodstock.
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Post by keithn on Nov 1, 2013 15:51:11 GMT
The Conservatives dominate the Council and would be favourites to win the by-election so it would seem on paper they have nothing to fear from a by-election.
The only party likely to take it off the Tories is UKIP. In my view, I think UKIP would do well in a by-election but the Tories would win. Clearly the Swale Tories think otherwise and are still bruised by the results last May.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 16:42:19 GMT
It doesn't matter who wins - they should resign and a byelection called with some expedition. It is the right thing to do.
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