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Post by carlton43 on Sept 5, 2013 10:41:12 GMT
I know very little at all about Australian politics, but what I do know is fairly repellent, starting with compulsory voting and going on with rudeness and coarseness of conduct in the chamber. So I vote Katters as I like his old fashioned Poujardiste lets have a policy that suits me and the old Australia I loved before the twerps took over.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 10:59:35 GMT
Democratic Labour were originally a group who disagreed with what they saw as the 'communist' leanings of many in the national Labor Party.They were eventually expelled and formed the DLP. They are a sort of 'Catholic' Labour party whose sole Senator emphasises the fact that his party is of the same lineage as the ALP. In the past, they have followed very radical polices including being in the forefront of opposing the 'White Australia Policy' and fighting for manufacturing investiment, equal pay, etc.
They are republican, anti-abortion, opposed to same-sex marriage, in favour of human rights in West Papua, protectionist.
They have no UK equivalent.
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Post by irish observer on Sept 5, 2013 11:18:02 GMT
I would vote Labor, historical ties, although dissatisfied with their performance. Irish electoral system superior here although I like the compulsory voting aspect.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 11:36:59 GMT
We'd make very odd bedfellows if you'd pardon the pun. You seem to have been a member of every UK party that I haven't been! |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 5, 2013 12:07:15 GMT
Although I don't agree with many of his policies I would vote for Clive Palmer if I had a vote in his constituency
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 5, 2013 15:14:31 GMT
Democratic Labour were originally a group who disagreed with what they saw as the 'communist' leanings of many in the national Labor Party.They were eventually expelled and formed the DLP. They are a sort of 'Catholic' Labour party whose sole Senator emphasises the fact that his party is of the same lineage as the ALP. In the past, they have followed very radical polices including being in the forefront of opposing the 'White Australia Policy' and fighting for manufacturing investiment, equal pay, etc. They are republican, anti-abortion, opposed to same-sex marriage, in favour of human rights in West Papua, protectionist. They have no UK equivalent. They sound like the Lanarkshire Labour Party. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 5, 2013 15:33:42 GMT
I'd vote for Labor (obviously). I despise Rudd, but that's really not the point.
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 5, 2013 15:37:34 GMT
The LDs so far are doing well in dissociating themselves with the liberal tradition in Australia. (Waits for DocB ...) The majority of the "Liberals" in the Australian Liberal Party have nothing to do with the liberal tradition. The Liberal Party is in fact only so-named as a tribute to Alfred Deakin. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 5, 2013 15:57:15 GMT
Democratic Labour were originally a group who disagreed with what they saw as the 'communist' leanings of many in the national Labor Party.They were eventually expelled and formed the DLP. They are a sort of 'Catholic' Labour party whose sole Senator emphasises the fact that his party is of the same lineage as the ALP. In the past, they have followed very radical polices including being in the forefront of opposing the 'White Australia Policy' and fighting for manufacturing investiment, equal pay, etc. They are republican, anti-abortion, opposed to same-sex marriage, in favour of human rights in West Papua, protectionist. They have no UK equivalent. That's not exactly accurate. The original Groupers were blamed for the ALP's narrow defeat in 1954 (which was nonsense) and were thrown out as entryists (which they were: they were all members - or at least fellow travellers - of 'The Movement', a political Catholic organisation run by B.A. Santamaria, who was not an ALP member and who was actively hostile to the then Labor leader H.V. Evatt). They then spent the next decade and a half trying to blackmail their way back into the ALP by directing preferences towards Coalition candidates in order to prevent Labor from winning elections (most successfully so in 1961. The Labor leader who would have otherwise become PM was a Melbourne Catholic himself). The DLP further expanded following a split (which had nothing to do with Communism or Catholicism) in the ALP's Queensland branch in 1957. Whitlam's victory in '72 destroyed the purpose of the DLP, and they collapsed in hilariously messy circumstances shortly after. The party was wound up in 1978, though some die-hards in Victoria started a new DLP immediately afterwards. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 5, 2013 16:00:30 GMT
And there is in fact a link between Katter and the re-grouped Groupers as Katter's father was one of the Queensland ALP members who left in 1957.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 5, 2013 16:04:25 GMT
Labor. But I'd have voted Green if Gillard had been the leader with her anti-gay equality views
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Post by erlend on Sept 5, 2013 16:07:37 GMT
Rudd on refugees is why my first preference is Green and have to grit teeth for Labour to get the 2PP vote.
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 5, 2013 17:40:13 GMT
The majority of the "Liberals" in the Australian Liberal Party have nothing to do with the liberal tradition. The Liberal Party is in fact only so-named as a tribute to Alfred Deakin. The small-l liberal wing of the party is there, it's just not in the ascendancy at the moment. But the Libs have had their share of liberal leaders in the past. Howard and Abbott have got it on the conservative side of things at the moment though. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Sept 5, 2013 17:45:18 GMT
The party was wound up in 1978, though some die-hards in Victoria started a new DLP immediately afterwards. IIUC the executive of the Victorian state branch ruled irregularities in the dissolution referendum made it invalid so they carried on and became the nucleus of the new party. However other ex DLP activists dispute this party's right to the legacy. It's similar to the rows about the SDPs here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 20:07:26 GMT
Democratic Labour were originally a group who disagreed with what they saw as the 'communist' leanings of many in the national Labor Party.They were eventually expelled and formed the DLP. They are a sort of 'Catholic' Labour party whose sole Senator emphasises the fact that his party is of the same lineage as the ALP. In the past, they have followed very radical polices including being in the forefront of opposing the 'White Australia Policy' and fighting for manufacturing investiment, equal pay, etc. They are republican, anti-abortion, opposed to same-sex marriage, in favour of human rights in West Papua, protectionist. They have no UK equivalent. They sound like the Lanarkshire Labour Party. Actually, they sound like a number of local Labour parties in the North West. Interesting factoid - they changed the official spelling of their name to Labour (with the U) just a few months ago. |
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 5, 2013 20:32:49 GMT
John Howard has endorsed Abbot, Good enough for me. You mean the aggressively anti immigrant John Howard...? |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 6, 2013 16:29:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 18:15:54 GMT
All things considered, if I were in Australia for this election, and the parties were on the ballot where I lived, I would give my first vote to the Greens, based solely on the Immigration issue and Kevin Rudd's racheting up the ante on this.
I would give my second vote to Labor, my third vote to Katter's Australian Party, then the Democratic Labour Party, after that it would be the Animal Justice Party and then moving down a list that would end with the Rise Up Australia Party and One Nation vying for last place. It's annoying that one has to add them to a list at all.
I realise this scenario is more likely in the Senate elections than a House of Representatives' seat.
If I was in my late aunt's constituency of Brand in Perth, I would vote Green, Labor, Katter, Independent, Citizen's Electoral Council, Liberal, FFP, Palmer, Australian Christians, the Nationals, Rise Up Australia.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Sept 6, 2013 20:06:18 GMT
I put Labor. If Gillard was still leader, I wouldn't have (don't know who I would have voted for, though).
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