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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 7:14:24 GMT
One for the Labour members in particular to enjoy here - although the Conservatives came so very close to winning a fourth term. Chris Latimer posted this on YouTube nearly a month ago.
IIRC we are now just waiting for 1966, some of the later coverage from 1970, a bit of morning after coverage here and there from various other general election elections and we'll have access to the whole lot of BBC's general election coverage from 1955-2010. The dream has almost been accomplished.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 20:43:23 GMT
In the past couple of weeks, Chris Latimer has posted more coverage of the 1964 election results onto YouTube - there are now 6 parts, all of which last about an hour and a half.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 11, 2014 23:28:34 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 13, 2014 8:19:27 GMT
I've got the 2nd part on in the background, and they're interviewing Tom Arnold. He looks about 40, so I was somewhat surprised when they announced he was 27, two years younger than I am now.
Politicians, like footballers, clearly looked older in those days!
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Post by neilm on Oct 13, 2014 8:39:29 GMT
Tom Arnold became an MP in 1974 at around 27, sure you're in the right thread?
He's one for the 'didn't fulfil promise' thread. A few MPs of that group spring to mind on thinking about it, Andrew Mackay perhaps.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 13, 2014 9:02:04 GMT
Tom Arnold became an MP in 1974 at around 27, sure you're in the right thread? He's one for the 'didn't fulfil promise' thread. A few MPs of that group spring to mind on thinking about it, Andrew Mackay perhaps. You're right, I hadn't noticed a 64 election thread previously and misread it...but yes, definitely did not fulfil his potential. A good long career though. |
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Post by john07 on Oct 13, 2014 10:20:32 GMT
Tom Arnold became an MP in 1974 at around 27, sure you're in the right thread? He's one for the 'didn't fulfil promise' thread. A few MPs of that group spring to mind on thinking about it, Andrew Mackay perhaps. I thought Arnold was a bit of a lightweight. I stood against him in 1979. We had a debate at Marple Hall School chaired by Tony (Factory Records) Wilson. He certainly did not stand out and Inthought that Viv Bingham and myself had the better of the arguments. His legacy is a solid Lib Dem seat. |
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Post by Philip Davies on Oct 13, 2014 12:33:25 GMT
Tom Arnold became an MP in 1974 at around 27, sure you're in the right thread? He's one for the 'didn't fulfil promise' thread. A few MPs of that group spring to mind on thinking about it, Andrew Mackay perhaps. I thought Arnold was a bit of a lightweight. I stood against him in 1979. We had a debate at Marple Hall School chaired by Tony (Factory Records) Wilson. He certainly did not stand out and Inthought that Viv Bingham and myself had the better of the arguments. His legacy is a solid Lib Dem seat. Interesting that my old school was used as a debate venue. How come the Conservatives won so easily in 1979 compared to Oct 1974 and 1983? Possible explanations are that removing Bramhall and adding Great Moor didn't help them in 1983 and Winstanley's personal vote was gone in 1979. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 13, 2014 13:16:10 GMT
I thought Arnold was a bit of a lightweight. I stood against him in 1979. We had a debate at Marple Hall School chaired by Tony (Factory Records) Wilson. He certainly did not stand out and Inthought that Viv Bingham and myself had the better of the arguments. His legacy is a solid Lib Dem seat. Interesting that my old school was used as a debate venue. How come the Conservatives won so easily in 1979 compared to Oct 1974 and 1983? Possible explanations are that removing Bramhall and adding Great Moor didn't help them in 1983 and Winstanley's personal vote was gone in 1979. Marple Hall has a pretty good rep across South Manchester, or at least it did when I was a kid. In fact wasn't it the best school in Stockport for a fair while? |
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Post by john07 on Oct 13, 2014 13:17:36 GMT
I thought Arnold was a bit of a lightweight. I stood against him in 1979. We had a debate at Marple Hall School chaired by Tony (Factory Records) Wilson. He certainly did not stand out and I thought that Viv Bingham and myself had the better of the arguments. His legacy is a solid Lib Dem seat. Interesting that my old school was used as a debate venue. How come the Conservatives won so easily in 1979 compared to Oct 1974 and 1983? Possible explanations are that removing Bramhall and adding Great Moor didn't help them in 1983 and Winstanley's personal vote was gone in 1979. If I recall correctly, Labour (almost) won the two General Elections in 1974 because the upsurge in votes for the Liberals bit more deeply into the Conservative vote than it did to the Labour vote. This factor was reversed in 1979 with Labour increasing their vote in most areas but the Conservatives increasing more so. Most was at the expense of the Liberals. The Jeremy Thorpe incident was still fresh in many peoples' mind. Hazel Grove did follow the national trends but I suspect that the loss of Mike Winstanley as candidate cost the Liberals many votes. Viv Bingham was a good candidate in my view but he didn't have the profile that Winstanley had. The boundary changes, in particular the loss of two Bramhall Wards and the gain of a more Liberal-friendly Ward from Stockport undoubtedly helped in subsequent elections. Getting back on topic, the 1964 election provided the foundation for the Liberals in the, then, Cheadle Constituency. Roger Cuss added 10,000 votes to the Liberals total from 1959 and got to within eight and a half thousand votes of winning. In the 1966 Election, Winstanley completed the task. |
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Post by Philip Davies on Oct 13, 2014 13:53:39 GMT
Interesting that my old school was used as a debate venue. How come the Conservatives won so easily in 1979 compared to Oct 1974 and 1983? Possible explanations are that removing Bramhall and adding Great Moor didn't help them in 1983 and Winstanley's personal vote was gone in 1979. Marple Hall has a pretty good rep across South Manchester, or at least it did when I was a kid. In fact wasn't it the best school in Stockport for a fair while? It was usually just behind Bramhall in the GCSE league tables. At least it was from 1992-2000 ish when I used to look at them! |
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Post by chorleyboy on Oct 13, 2014 15:44:54 GMT
If I recall correctly, Labour (almost) won the two General Elections in 1974 because the upsurge in votes for the Liberals bit more deeply into the Conservative vote than it did to the Labour vote. This factor was reversed in 1979 with Labour increasing their vote in most areas but the Conservatives increasing more so. Most was at the expense of the Liberals. The Jeremy Thorpe incident was still fresh in many peoples' mind. It is a known fact that GE's where Labour win are better for the small parties and vice versa. 1979 (and 1983 and 1987) were disasters for the SNP as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 18:33:29 GMT
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Post by neilm on Oct 13, 2014 18:44:24 GMT
I was about to comment and ask that this not be moved, but hey ho.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 15, 2014 13:54:42 GMT
Get your diaries out:
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Post by chorleyboy on Nov 12, 2014 10:04:13 GMT
Starting NOW on BBC Parliament.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 12, 2014 10:07:18 GMT
Starting NOW on BBC Parliament. The first one I watched live on TV and the first I voted in, at Maidstone. |
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Post by Philip Davies on Nov 12, 2014 12:44:38 GMT
I am recording it, but watching a little bit in my lunchtime now - a benefit of working from home!
Harold Wilson is just about to be declared the victor in Huyton.
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Nov 12, 2014 14:49:35 GMT
I've recorded it as well (when it first shown ages ago) but am recording it again to post to a friend in Iowa as a Thanksgiving present (and it will be interesting to see what he makes of the UK's reaction to the ousting of Kurschev)
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Post by chorleyboy on Nov 12, 2014 15:02:38 GMT
Do they not have the internet in Iowa?  |
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