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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 14, 2022 10:10:46 GMT
In 2019 Gove and Hunt were neighbours. Raab wasn't too far away either. Neighbourhood Watch meetings must have been fun. Phillip Hammond was the missing link
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Post by john07 on Jul 14, 2022 19:10:53 GMT
Neighbourhood Watch meetings must have been fun. Phillip Hammond was the missing link Was or is?
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Post by johnloony on Jul 15, 2022 0:11:47 GMT
The UK was the 5th country in the world to get a woman prime minister. (z) The UK was the 11th country in the world to get a 2nd woman prime minister. (a) If the UK gets a woman prime minister in 2022, the UK will be the 8th country to have 3 woman prime ministers. (b)
(z) 1. Sri Lanka 1960 2. India 1964 3. Israel 1969 4. Central African Republic 1975 5. United Kingdom 1979
(a) 1. Sri Lanka 1994 2. Bangladesh 1996 3. New Zealand 1999 4. São Tomé & Principe 2005 5. Haiti 2008 6. Finland 2010 7. Peru 2011 8. Senegal 2013 9. Norway 2013 10. Poland 2014 11. United Kingdom 2016
(b) 1. Haiti 2014 2. Peru 2014 3. Poland 2015 4. New Zealand 2017 5. Moldova 2019 6. Finland 2019 7. Lithuania 2020
Peru has had 6 woman prime ministers, but this “record” is debatable / open to interpretation, because the executive leader of the government in Peru is the President, who appoints the “prime minister” as the chair of the cabinet of ministers; he / she has much less power than the (e.g.) prime minister of France, and it is debatable whether he / she should be counted as a PM at all.
The list of statistics is also flexible in the sense that some of the prime ministers (e.g. in Haiti) have been “acting prime minister” - so, depending on what the laws and constitutions say in various countries, it is also debatable whether they should be counted.
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Post by johnloony on Jul 15, 2022 0:22:37 GMT
If we assume that the next prime minister of the UK is a woman, and if we assume that she becomes prime minister on 6th September 2022, and if she manages to stay in office for a year or more, then from 28th August 2023 onwards, the UK will have had female Conservative prime ministers for a longer period of time than male Conservative prime ministers since 1979. Which is the same thing as saying “…since 1974”. If she lasts until a general election in May 2024, then …since July 1973.
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Jul 15, 2022 7:45:50 GMT
If we assume that the next prime minister of the UK is a woman, and if we assume that she becomes prime minister on 6th September 2022, and if she manages to stay in office for a year or more, then from 28th August 2023 onwards, the UK will have had female Conservative prime ministers for a longer period of time than male Conservative prime ministers since 1979. Which is the same thing as saying “…since 1974”. If she lasts until a general election in May 2024, then …since July 1973. When the present prime minister succeeded his predecessor, the UK had had female Conservative prime ministers for a longer period of time than male Conservative prime ministers since February 1972.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 15, 2022 8:12:51 GMT
Michelle Donelan served as Education Secretary for longer than all the female Labour and Liberal prime ministers put together.
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jul 15, 2022 8:16:31 GMT
Michelle Donelan served as Education Secretary for longer than all the female Labour and Liberal prime ministers put together. You're assuming some of their Prime Ministers didn't self identify as female.
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Post by grahammurray on Jul 15, 2022 8:35:48 GMT
Michelle Donelan served as Education Secretary for longer than all the female Labour and Liberal prime ministers put together. Except there's a narrative that she didn't officialy serve at all.
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Post by Sg1 on Jul 15, 2022 19:48:42 GMT
I think that if our next prime minister is a woman then it'll have normalised the idea of having a woman prime minister
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Post by Sg1 on Jul 15, 2022 20:13:59 GMT
But not a Labour woman Prime Minister. That remains abnormal. As do Labour prime ministers
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jul 15, 2022 21:11:56 GMT
But not a Labour woman Prime Minister. That remains abnormal. As do Labour prime ministers BOOM
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 20:27:23 GMT
Cumulative votes at the constituencies at the 2019 general election that have had by-elections in this Parliament, and the cumulative votes of those by-elections. 2019 Share | 2019 Vote | Party | Place | Party | By-election Vote | By-election Share |
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48.67 | 232,879 | Conservative | 1 | Conservative | 111,597 | 38.63 | 29.61 | 141,676 | Labour | 2 | Labour | 65,417 | 22.64 | 9.79 | 46,861 | Lib Dems | 3 | Lib Dems | 65,162 | 22.55 | 3.75 | 17,929 | SNP | 4 | SNP | 10,129 | 3.51 | 3.44 | 16,447 | Brexit | 5 | Workers G | 8,264 | 2.86 | 2.08 | 9,940 | Green E&W | 6 | Green E&W | 6,293 | 2.18 | 1.34 | 6,432 | Heavy Woolen District | 7 | Reform | 4,973 | 1.72 | 0.24 | 1,141 | Shropshire | 8 | Independent S. Lee | 2,904 | 1.01 | 0.20 | 968 | UKIP | 9 | Independent A Akbar | 2,090 | 0.72 | 0.19 | 911 | Independent J Bousfield | 10 | Yorkshire | 1,998 | 0.18 |
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Post by casualobserver on Jul 24, 2022 14:35:02 GMT
Of course even more inherently evil, wicked, immoral and perverse than the concept of town-twinning is when a single town has several "twins" in different countries, instead of just one. If Town A twins with Town B, and Town B twins with Town C, oughtn’t Towns A and C also be considered to be twinned?
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Post by johnloony on Jul 24, 2022 17:16:30 GMT
Of course even more inherently evil, wicked, immoral and perverse than the concept of town-twinning is when a single town has several "twins" in different countries, instead of just one. If Town A twins with Town B, and Town B twins with Town C, oughtn’t Towns A and C also be considered to be twinned? Bridgnorth (UK), Schrobenhausen (Germany) and Thiers (France) are all twinned (or tripleted) with each other. But that’s only because they all chose to be. In general terms, I guess not.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Aug 4, 2022 20:00:13 GMT
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Post by minionofmidas on Aug 6, 2022 14:18:17 GMT
If Town A twins with Town B, and Town B twins with Town C, oughtn’t Towns A and C also be considered to be twinned? Bridgnorth (UK), Schrobenhausen (Germany) and Thiers (France) are all twinned (or tripleted) with each other. But that’s only because they all chose to be. In general terms, I guess not. Same deal with Frankfurt Brum Lyon and Milan. All twinned up since 1966. A couple of Frankfurt's umpteen later, less wellknown (to Frankfurters I mean) twins are also twinned with Birmingham as well - Leipzig (this dates to when Leipzig was still nominally in a different country), Guangzhou. Leipzig isn't even the oddestlooking entry on the official list of Frankfurt's twin towns. That's the small Paris exurb of Deuil-la-Barre. This came to be because Frankfurt annexed Deuil's original twin town.
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 6, 2022 14:36:19 GMT
Bridgnorth (UK), Schrobenhausen (Germany) and Thiers (France) are all twinned (or tripleted) with each other. But that’s only because they all chose to be. In general terms, I guess not. Same deal with Frankfurt Brum Lyon and Milan. All twinned up since 1966. A couple of Frankfurt's umpteen later, less wellknown (to Frankfurters I mean) twins are also twinned with Birmingham as well - Leipzig (this dates to when Leipzig was still nominally in a different country), Guangzhou. Leipzig isn't even the oddestlooking entry on the official list of Frankfurt's twin towns. That's the small Paris exurb of Deuil-la-Barre. This came to be because Frankfurt annexed Deuil's original twin town. Ashford was first twinned with Bad Munstereifel, which was also twinned with Fougeres and it took a few years before that became a 3-way thing, but once it was it felt as though that had always been the case. However I think Fougeres was also twinned with somewhere in Burkina Faso and I don't think anyone felt the need to make it a 4-way thing.
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Post by john07 on Aug 8, 2022 20:10:40 GMT
Same deal with Frankfurt Brum Lyon and Milan. All twinned up since 1966. A couple of Frankfurt's umpteen later, less wellknown (to Frankfurters I mean) twins are also twinned with Birmingham as well - Leipzig (this dates to when Leipzig was still nominally in a different country), Guangzhou. Leipzig isn't even the oddestlooking entry on the official list of Frankfurt's twin towns. That's the small Paris exurb of Deuil-la-Barre. This came to be because Frankfurt annexed Deuil's original twin town. Ashford was first twinned with Bad Munstereifel, which was also twinned with Fougeres and it took a few years before that became a 3-way thing, but once it was it felt as though that had always been the case. However I think Fougeres was also twinned with somewhere in Burkina Faso and I don't think anyone felt the need to make it a 4-way thing. It is Ouargaye in Burkina Faso. Plus also Somoto in Nicaragua, and Śrem in Poland.
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 8, 2022 20:23:40 GMT
Ashford was first twinned with Bad Munstereifel, which was also twinned with Fougeres and it took a few years before that became a 3-way thing, but once it was it felt as though that had always been the case. However I think Fougeres was also twinned with somewhere in Burkina Faso and I don't think anyone felt the need to make it a 4-way thing. It is Ouargaye in Burkina Faso. Plus also Somoto in Nicaragua, and Śrem in Poland. Come to think about it I did know about Somoto. The Polish one is news to me- maybe its since my time.
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Post by john07 on Aug 9, 2022 0:10:35 GMT
It is Ouargaye in Burkina Faso. Plus also Somoto in Nicaragua, and Śrem in Poland. Come to think about it I did know about Somoto. The Polish one is news to me- maybe its since my time. I haven’t been to Fougères for two or three years but have visited many times since the 1980s. Fougères appears to have moved to the left. After electing Christian Democrat, Gisgardist, and Gaullist mayors from 1945 until 1983, it returned a Socialist and then a DVG mayor since then.
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