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Post by greenhert on Sept 3, 2020 20:51:00 GMT
Against the trend of a terminal Conservative decline in Liverpool, there was one Liverpuidlian parliamentary constituency in the 1992 general election where the Conservative vote actually increased: Garston, where it increased by 3% thus reducing the Conservative to Labour swing to just 0.25% that year.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 3, 2020 21:45:20 GMT
Against the trend of a terminal Conservative decline in Liverpool, there was one Liverpuidlian parliamentary constituency in the 1992 general election where the Conservative vote actually increased: Garston, where it increased by 3% thus reducing the Conservative to Labour swing to just 0.25% that year. It contained the last ward in Liverpool to return a Conservative councillor in Woolton.
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Post by hullenedge on Sept 26, 2020 17:00:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 18:19:48 GMT
Against the trend of a terminal Conservative decline in Liverpool, there was one Liverpuidlian parliamentary constituency in the 1992 general election where the Conservative vote actually increased: Garston, where it increased by 3% thus reducing the Conservative to Labour swing to just 0.25% that year. Crosby is Liverpool-influenced and saw a Tory rise in 1992 along with Garston, Southport, Wirral South and West.
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Post by European Lefty on Sept 26, 2020 20:05:43 GMT
Against the trend of a terminal Conservative decline in Liverpool, there was one Liverpuidlian parliamentary constituency in the 1992 general election where the Conservative vote actually increased: Garston, where it increased by 3% thus reducing the Conservative to Labour swing to just 0.25% that year. Crosby is Liverpool-influenced and saw a Tory rise in 1992 along with Garston, Southport, Wirral South and West. Only one of those is a Liverpool seat and it's the one from the post you quoted
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 15, 2020 19:03:23 GMT
Hard to pin down(especially with looser party labels re 20th century) but what was the largest incumbent Govt majority that was increased at the following election?
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Oct 15, 2020 20:28:04 GMT
Hard to pin down(especially with looser party labels re 20th century) but what was the largest incumbent Govt majority that was increased at the following election?
Looking here it seems to be the Conservative 60 in 1955 that became 100 in 1959.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 15, 2020 20:41:19 GMT
Hard to pin down(especially with looser party labels re 20th century) but what was the largest incumbent Govt majority that was increased at the following election?
Looking here it seems to be the Conservative 60 in 1955 that became 100 in 1959. thank you! didn't know about that wikpedia page. that was the one that came to mind. I asked as I was pondering why some people though Labour could increase it's 179 majority of 1997
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 15, 2020 22:34:45 GMT
Looking here it seems to be the Conservative 60 in 1955 that became 100 in 1959. thank you! didn't know about that wikpedia page. that was the one that came to mind. I asked as I was pondering why some people though Labour could increase it's 179 majority of 1997 It wasn't very far off happening. They were only down 5 net and it could easily have gone that much the other way. The 2001 election is the first where I remember there being online discussion prior to it and prediction sites and I recall a good many people mooting Labour gaining the likes of Billericay and other near misses from 1997. It's probably only the drop in turnout (which was concentrated in traditionally Labour voting areas) which stopped that from happening. The standing of the Conservatives at that time was absolutely dire, worse than 1997 in many respects
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 16, 2020 10:07:04 GMT
thank you! didn't know about that wikpedia page. that was the one that came to mind. I asked as I was pondering why some people though Labour could increase it's 179 majority of 1997 It wasn't very far off happening. They were only down 5 net and it could easily have gone that much the other way. The 2001 election is the first where I remember there being online discussion prior to it and prediction sites and I recall a good many people mooting Labour gaining the likes of Billericay and other near misses from 1997. It's probably only the drop in turnout (which was concentrated in traditionally Labour voting areas) which stopped that from happening. The standing of the Conservatives at that time was absolutely dire, worse than 1997 in many respects I agree broadly with that. Maybe there was also no stomach for more tactical voting to really hurt the Tories(as some felt the Blair majority was already too much)?
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 16, 2020 10:15:40 GMT
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 16, 2020 10:31:16 GMT
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 16, 2020 11:01:20 GMT
Yes, I had always assumed there was a swing from Lab to Con after the protests, and to "others" (presumably UKIP). I hadn't appreciated there was also a swing to the LDs. I guess this would be from people who were disappointed at Blair caving in on the issue.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 16, 2020 11:07:23 GMT
Yes, I had always assumed there was a swing from Lab to Con after the protests, and to "others" (presumably UKIP). I hadn't appreciated there was also a swing to the LDs. I guess this would be from people who were disappointed at Blair caving in on the issue. To paraphrase Peter Kellner during the 1997-2001 parliament-people want to blow raspberries at the government by abstaining and voting for other parties just not the Tories.
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 16, 2020 11:18:59 GMT
2001 saw the start of the LibDems positioning themselves to attract Labour voters disappointed with Blair(ism), though of course this only really took off with the Iraq war.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 16, 2020 11:32:40 GMT
2001 saw the start of the LibDems positioning themselves to attract Labour voters disappointed with Blair(ism), though of course this only really took off with the Iraq war. Charles kennedy was a good bloke(RIP) but they soon got their halo knocked off
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 26, 2020 20:56:32 GMT
John Tyler (1790 - 1862) Lyon Gardiner Tyler (1853 - 1935) Harrison Ruffin Tyler (1928 - living)
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Post by greenhert on Oct 29, 2020 16:06:36 GMT
Lowest average weekly wage in a Conservative-held constituency: £450, Blackpool South. Highest average weekly wage in a Labour-held constituency: £870, Islington South & Finsbury.
(The constituency with the highest average weekly wage, Wimbledon, at £890, only narrowly evaded capture by the Liberal Democrats last year. The constituency with the lowest average weekly wage is Leicester East, at just £420.)
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Post by bsjmcr on Oct 31, 2020 3:35:00 GMT
Lowest average weekly wage in a Conservative-held constituency: £450, Blackpool South. Highest average weekly wage in a Labour-held constituency: £870, Islington South & Finsbury. (The constituency with the highest average weekly wage, Wimbledon, at £890, only narrowly evaded capture by the Liberal Democrats last year. The constituency with the lowest average weekly wage is Leicester East, at just £420.) I'm surprised it's not further north? Leicester doesn't come up top in any of the 'most deprived' tables I've seen, either, though I understand there are 'multiple dimensions' associated with that one other than income. I can understand why the highest average wage one isn't a more 'well known for being rich' one like Kensington, Chelsea or Tatton due to some deprived spots within, nor some rural home counties one as some may be less well off, perhaps instead more wealthy in terms of savings compared to income.
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Post by robert1 on Nov 5, 2020 7:36:21 GMT
John Tyler (1790 - 1862) Lyon Gardiner Tyler (1853 - 1935) Harrison Ruffin Tyler (1928 - living) I am told that Harrison Tyler died in the last few days. His death was reported in the New York Times
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