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Post by stb12 on Mar 14, 2024 1:32:57 GMT
Wakefield and Rothwell
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YL
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Post by YL on Mar 14, 2024 7:49:39 GMT
Almanac profileArnie Craven (Con) David Dews (Reform UK) Stewart Golton (Lib Dem) Brent Hawksley (Yorkshire Party) Simon Lightwood* (Lab) Keith Mason (Workers Party) Ash Routh (Green) Nicholas Sanders (SDP)
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Post by thejedi on May 27, 2024 14:00:36 GMT
Nic Stansby is standing as an independent.
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Post by markgoodair on May 27, 2024 19:08:20 GMT
Nic Stansby is standing as an independent. Well that’s £500 she’ll never see again.
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Post by thejedi on May 27, 2024 19:21:29 GMT
Nic Stansby is standing as an independent. Well that’s £500 she’ll never see again. I sense you’re a man that doesn’t have many friends, Mark.
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Post by batman on May 27, 2024 19:48:59 GMT
I'm not exactly Mark's biggest fan in this forum, but I don't see that remark of his as particularly untoward.
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Post by thejedi on May 27, 2024 20:04:12 GMT
I'm not exactly Mark's biggest fan in this forum, but I don't see that remark of his as particularly untoward. It’s nothing to do with that “remark”, I just sense he doesn’t have many friends in general.
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Post by batman on May 27, 2024 20:24:00 GMT
that's getting a bit personal. I think it would be better to steer clear of stuff like that. Truth is none of us knows, except perhaps armchaircritic. Sorry to sound like an admin.
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Post by Ron Swanson on May 27, 2024 20:53:03 GMT
I don't think it would be out of the question that an independent candidate, especially a known one... could get 5% vote share.
Field is quite crowded though with seven candidates so far - including a Lib Dem councillor for Rothwell with a personal following, then Workers Party standing an ex rugby player (not sure if he played for Wakey or not - don't think so), and Reform standing a former UKIP councillor.
She'd need 2500 or so - managed 1000 only a few weeks ago in one ward.
Lightwood seems alright to me and will no doubt be returned with a comfortable majority, but I don't think it'll be anything to write home about. There isn't a huge amount of love for Labour in Wakefield - hasn't been for as long as I can remember. There is a real need for some fresh blood locally, with a bit of fire in their bellies to get stuff done. The district is lagging behind other, neighbouring areas, including Barnsley, which has improved massively lately in the town centre.
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Post by thejedi on May 27, 2024 21:12:17 GMT
I don't think it would be out of the question that an independent candidate, especially a known one... could get 5% vote share. Field is quite crowded though with seven candidates so far - including a Lib Dem councillor for Rothwell with a personal following, then Workers Party standing an ex rugby player (not sure if he played for Wakey or not - don't think so), and Reform standing a former UKIP councillor. She'd need 2500 or so - managed 1000 only a few weeks ago in one ward. Lightwood seems alright to me and will no doubt be returned with a comfortable majority, but I don't think it'll be anything to write home about. There isn't a huge amount of love for Labour in Wakefield - hasn't been for as long as I can remember. There is a real need for some fresh blood locally, with a bit of fire in their bellies to get stuff done. The district is lagging behind other, neighbouring areas, including Barnsley, which has improved massively lately in the town centre. If you actually look at the this month’s local elections results and compare them to 2021, the actually amount of votes the Labour candidates got didn’t actually go up by much, in fact some candidates got less votes.
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Post by Ron Swanson on May 27, 2024 21:42:20 GMT
I don't think it would be out of the question that an independent candidate, especially a known one... could get 5% vote share. Field is quite crowded though with seven candidates so far - including a Lib Dem councillor for Rothwell with a personal following, then Workers Party standing an ex rugby player (not sure if he played for Wakey or not - don't think so), and Reform standing a former UKIP councillor. She'd need 2500 or so - managed 1000 only a few weeks ago in one ward. Lightwood seems alright to me and will no doubt be returned with a comfortable majority, but I don't think it'll be anything to write home about. There isn't a huge amount of love for Labour in Wakefield - hasn't been for as long as I can remember. There is a real need for some fresh blood locally, with a bit of fire in their bellies to get stuff done. The district is lagging behind other, neighbouring areas, including Barnsley, which has improved massively lately in the town centre. If you actually look at the this month’s local elections results and compare them to 2021, the actually amount of votes the Labour candidates got didn’t actually go up by much, in fact some candidates got less votes. Yes, some of the ones that are particularly popular and work their wards got good numbers - like Darren Byford for example. With the national picture as it is compared to 2021 you’d have expected them to have moved forward in a few seats, but this hasn’t really been the case. Even with the then Tory MP getting sent down and the ‘issues’ they’ve had locally.
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Post by thejedi on May 27, 2024 22:14:46 GMT
If you actually look at the this month’s local elections results and compare them to 2021, the actually amount of votes the Labour candidates got didn’t actually go up by much, in fact some candidates got less votes. Yes, some of the ones that are particularly popular and work their wards got good numbers - like Darren Byford for example. With the national picture as it is compared to 2021 you’d have expected them to have moved forward in a few seats, but this hasn’t really been the case. Even with the then Tory MP getting sent down and the ‘issues’ they’ve had locally. Byford again only got an extra 170 votes, massive majority yes. But in terms of “extra votes” (for Labour), they’re not getting that many more than people think.
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Post by Ron Swanson on May 28, 2024 10:30:13 GMT
Yes, some of the ones that are particularly popular and work their wards got good numbers - like Darren Byford for example. With the national picture as it is compared to 2021 you’d have expected them to have moved forward in a few seats, but this hasn’t really been the case. Even with the then Tory MP getting sent down and the ‘issues’ they’ve had locally. Byford again only got an extra 170 votes, massive majority yes. But in terms of “extra votes” (for Labour), they’re not getting that many more than people think. Aye... I think the more popular, active ones like Byford have been able to retain their vote from the higher turn out in 2021. Though a majority will have seen their vote barely move, decreasing in some instances. Big challenge as always here is to motivate non-voters to come out... which other parties haven't really been able to do in a big way thus far. I'm not sure how much of the LD vote in Knottingley is new people or switchers... probably some of each. Because the district is monolithically Labour, a lot of voters might not bother because they don't believe it can ever change. Some of the smarter ones do recognise the need for a fair sized opposition grouping, others will glory in the fact that the last two sets of elections have seen a near wipe out of opposition members.
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Post by ArmchairCritic on May 28, 2024 15:21:41 GMT
Nic Stansby is standing as an independent. Well that’s £500 she’ll never see again. Why don't you put your name up, gobshite, instead of mouthing off about people who have the nouse to do it. You can comfortably afford 500 quid, so why don't you? At least Nic has won an election in her life, whereas you lost the LibDem local election key seat in 2008 when you were odds on favourite to win it. Your results seem to have got progressively worse ever since. The more the electorate see of you, the less likely they are to vote for you. People put their names up for election for all kinds of reasons and all power to 'em I say. I actively encourage people to put their names up and contribute to the debate.....even if they might be talking rubbish. It doesn't matter. Now run along you fucking clown
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Post by ArmchairCritic on May 28, 2024 15:35:27 GMT
Byford again only got an extra 170 votes, massive majority yes. But in terms of “extra votes” (for Labour), they’re not getting that many more than people think. Aye... I think the more popular, active ones like Byford have been able to retain their vote from the higher turn out in 2021. Though a majority will have seen their vote barely move, decreasing in some instances. Big challenge as always here is to motivate non-voters to come out... which other parties haven't really been able to do in a big way thus far. I'm not sure how much of the LD vote in Knottingley is new people or switchers... probably some of each. Because the district is monolithically Labour, a lot of voters might not bother because they don't believe it can ever change. Some of the smarter ones do recognise the need for a fair sized opposition grouping, others will glory in the fact that the last two sets of elections have seen a near wipe out of opposition members. Darren is a very personable and likeable guy....even I like him. And he is a good councillor to be fair to him.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 28, 2024 16:59:54 GMT
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Khunanup
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Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on May 28, 2024 17:13:10 GMT
Yeah, it cropped up on my X feed after they announced (mentioning that he's an ex-Saints player). Cracking player, saw him play a few times, shame about the politics...
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 28, 2024 17:28:15 GMT
Yeah, it cropped up on my X feed after they announced (mentioning that he's an ex-Saints player). Cracking player, saw him play a few times, shame about the politics... I remember seeing him, mainly because it was the day that Adrian Morley shoulder-charged Eorl Crabtree and flattened him. Those were the days.
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Post by thejedi on Jun 4, 2024 11:19:58 GMT
Jeremy Lunn has been replaced by West Yorkshire Mayor candidate Arnie Craven has the Tory candidate, due to ill health from Jeremy Lunn.
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 7, 2024 17:14:24 GMT
Nic Stansby is standing as an independent. No she isn't.
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