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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 25, 2024 7:15:34 GMT
I've just had a go in the Retirements thread, I await my nomination. Duly nominated. 😊 You make it all worthwhile. |
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Post by arnieg on Jun 2, 2024 7:05:04 GMT
"On Friday evening we selected Lucy Demery as Wokingham Conservatives’ Parliamentary candidate.
She is part of a new generation of Conservatives stepping forward to offer a bright new future for Wokingham and our country."
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 2, 2024 7:57:43 GMT
"On Friday evening we selected Lucy Demery as Wokingham Conservatives’ Parliamentary candidate. She is part of a new generation of Conservatives stepping forward to offer a bright new future for Wokingham and our country." 'Bless'¬! |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 2, 2024 8:08:58 GMT
"On Friday evening we selected Lucy Demery as Wokingham Conservatives’ Parliamentary candidate. She is part of a new generation of Conservatives stepping forward to offer a bright new future for Wokingham and our country." 'Bless'¬! Works for Barclays, and previously Standard Chartered. Or possibly the other way round. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 2, 2024 8:12:12 GMT
Works for Barclays, and previously Standard Chartered. Or possibly the other way round. I doubt anyone would 'trade down' to Barclays, even for ready money, Sir! |
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Post by cogload on Jun 2, 2024 8:26:15 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 2, 2024 8:30:49 GMT
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Post by batman on Jun 2, 2024 8:37:34 GMT
A rare instance of me sort of agreeing with John Redwood. But then, surely everyone knows that the Liberal Democrats are not a serious candidate party for government, so if they do decide to go all policy-dominated rather than the way they normally campaign, everyone will just say that they can easily say such-and-such, they won't be in a position to implement it, so they can say what they like. More scrutiny of actual implementation of policy resides only with Labour & the Conservatives in England, and the SNP in Scotland (though not really for Westminster elections in their case).
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Post by cogload on Jun 2, 2024 8:40:14 GMT
Tip: change "X" to "twitter" so they show up. How do you do that? |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 2, 2024 8:46:42 GMT
Tip: change "X" to "twitter" so they show up. How do you do that? Just edit the address, delete 'x' and put 'twitter' instead. The forum doesn't recognise 'x' as a valid address so it's not displaying the link as an image. |
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 2, 2024 9:33:59 GMT
Like this. I have been doing this to lots of your posts. |
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Post by iain on Jun 2, 2024 11:02:00 GMT
A rare instance of me sort of agreeing with John Redwood. But then, surely everyone knows that the Liberal Democrats are not a serious candidate party for government, so if they do decide to go all policy-dominated rather than the way they normally campaign, everyone will just say that they can easily say such-and-such, they won't be in a position to implement it, so they can say what they like. More scrutiny of actual implementation of policy resides only with Labour & the Conservatives in England, and the SNP in Scotland (though not really for Westminster elections in their case). Does any party put policies on their posters? |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 2, 2024 11:02:40 GMT
A rare instance of me sort of agreeing with John Redwood. But then, surely everyone knows that the Liberal Democrats are not a serious candidate party for government, so if they do decide to go all policy-dominated rather than the way they normally campaign, everyone will just say that they can easily say such-and-such, they won't be in a position to implement it, so they can say what they like. More scrutiny of actual implementation of policy resides only with Labour & the Conservatives in England, and the SNP in Scotland (though not really for Westminster elections in their case). Quite so. Why do they bother? What is it all for? It must be that they like the campaign and the wins and that is the sum total of the game for them? 100-years of doing it and in 2019 11-seats? Pathetic or wot? They worry and smirk at Reform for not winning seats! Reform are not about winning seats and never have been; nor were UKIP or Reclaim. They are about single issues or mood change or damage to other parties. Their form of attack is mass movement mood swing, not winning seats. It is in fact a far more intelligent form of minor party politics because it achieves a hell of a lot more than the LDs have ever done. |
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Post by batman on Jun 2, 2024 11:34:56 GMT
A rare instance of me sort of agreeing with John Redwood. But then, surely everyone knows that the Liberal Democrats are not a serious candidate party for government, so if they do decide to go all policy-dominated rather than the way they normally campaign, everyone will just say that they can easily say such-and-such, they won't be in a position to implement it, so they can say what they like. More scrutiny of actual implementation of policy resides only with Labour & the Conservatives in England, and the SNP in Scotland (though not really for Westminster elections in their case). Does any party put policies on their posters? no not really. But if you think they primarily fight elections on policy you can’t have seen their leaflets round here. |
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Post by noorderling on Jun 2, 2024 11:38:45 GMT
Does any party put policies on their posters? no not really. But if you think they primarily fight elections on policy you can’t have seen their leaflets round here. Every Davey stunt this week was accompanied by a policy announcement, for instance about sewage or free school meals. |
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Post by Ports on Jun 2, 2024 12:35:03 GMT
no not really. But if you think they primarily fight elections on policy you can’t have seen their leaflets round here. Every Davey stunt this week was accompanied by a policy announcement, for instance about sewage or free school meals. Which probably wouldn't have got much mention other than a paragraph in a BBC live feed. They might not have turned heads and maybe put a few people off but the attention makes it worth it. In this age of social media metrics and the like journalists seem to want to report on that sort of thing rather than just straightforward policy announcement. |
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Post by noorderling on Jun 2, 2024 12:40:44 GMT
I saw a clip of Daisy Cooper saying something like that. On the waterslide Davey was interviewed by the Sky reporter, just before they went down together.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 2, 2024 17:31:33 GMT
Does any party put policies on their posters? no not really. But if you think they primarily fight elections on policy you can’t have seen their leaflets round here. I've been bombarded with YouTube ads since the election call from the Labour candidate in a neighbouring constituency, although the dynamics of my new seat are essentially the same. Granted, they're only 20-30 seconds long so you can't expect a lot of detail, but the pitch is entirely about how only a vote for Labour will send the Tories a message and get them out of government, so a vote for any of the incumbent's other opponents is a waste - nothing at all about policy, or Starmer and his team, or even what the candidate does for a living. So, the Lib Dems aren't the only ones adopting this tactic. And at least in their case it makes more sense since they're much more likely still to be in opposition in five weeks time. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jun 2, 2024 19:34:10 GMT
no not really. But if you think they primarily fight elections on policy you can’t have seen their leaflets round here. I've been bombarded with YouTube ads since the election call from the Labour candidate in a neighbouring constituency, although the dynamics of my new seat are essentially the same. Granted, they're only 20-30 seconds long so you can't expect a lot of detail, but the pitch is entirely about how only a vote for Labour will send the Tories a message and get them out of government, so a vote for any of the incumbent's other opponents is a waste - nothing at all about policy, or Starmer and his team, or even what the candidate does for a living. So, the Lib Dems aren't the only ones adopting this tactic. And at least in their case it makes more sense since they're much more likely still to be in opposition in five weeks time. Bluntly, as the opinion polls show, the public has made up their minds on the Conservative government. They also show that Labour is not especially beloved, but the sense is that it is time for a change and that means Labour in No 10. ( Mutatis mutandis, much of that goes for SNP and Labour in Scotland.) In these circumstances any party talking about policy is more or less wasting their time; or, at least it's mainly something to hang the message of "kick 'em out/please give me another chance" on. Labour is a bit less likely to push the "only we can beat the Tory" message for the bloody obvious reason that it's the assumption most people have already, but of course they'll put out a squeeze message in target seats where the margin is close. Lib Dems always have to push that message, usually about 20 times to every house, because no-one in the national media is going to tell any voter that their specific constituency is an exception to the normal rule. That's true even in places that everyone here would know are big Lib Dem areas because, as opinion pollsters always note, many voters can't even recall correctly who they voted for last time, let alone the details of the race. For some reason this upsets people in the parties who generally don't have to bother, but any time they do have to they bloody well will. |
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