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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2024 10:27:14 GMT
Another seat Seb Payne's trying for... He gets this supposedly "plum" seat......and then loses. This is the maximum banter scenario, and we surely all want it to happen  Indeed. Much as it Paynes him to realise it. |
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Post by wallington on Jun 3, 2024 17:28:27 GMT
Another seat Seb Payne's trying for... He gets this supposedly "plum" seat......and then loses. This is the maximum banter scenario, and we surely all want it to happen ahh... it's why we all wanted Mason in Islington North. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Jun 3, 2024 22:17:17 GMT
Can someone enlighten me as to who Seb Payne is?
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Post by john07 on Jun 3, 2024 22:22:30 GMT
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Post by Foggy on Jun 4, 2024 1:10:21 GMT
Can someone enlighten me as to who Seb Payne is? If you were blissfully unaware until now, then you would have been wise to leave things that way. |
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Post by cogload on Jun 4, 2024 2:46:35 GMT
Sebastian E Payne's most (in)famous moment is when he tweeted that Leo Varadkar had "lost his seat" in Dublin South and that "politics was a brutal business" with almost undisguised glee - it was then pointed out that Varadkar had finished 2nd on 1st preferences and that Ireland used STV and multi member seats - which as a (then) journalist on The Times he really should have known.
Payne deleted the tweet instead of acknowledging the error after the inevitable pile on ensued.
During his tenure at the FT he produced what was a classic piece of client journalism in a profile of Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson - it was so utterly hagiograpic you would think he was auditioning for the role of official biographer. 🫤
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Post by Foggy on Jun 4, 2024 3:17:35 GMT
Sebastian E Payne's most (in)famous moment is when he tweeted that Leo Varadkar had "lost his seat" in Dublin South and that "politics was a brutal business" with almost undisguised glee - it was then pointed out that Varadkar had finished 2nd on 1st preferences and that Ireland used STV and multi member seats - which as a (then) journalist on The Times he really should have known. Varadkar represents Dublin West but other than that - yes, very silly error for a professional journalist specialising in politics to make. There isn't currently a Dáil constituency simply called Dublin South. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 4, 2024 15:33:44 GMT
Sebastian E Payne's most (in)famous moment is when he tweeted that Leo Varadkar had "lost his seat" in Dublin South and that "politics was a brutal business" with almost undisguised glee - it was then pointed out that Varadkar had finished 2nd on 1st preferences and that Ireland used STV and multi member seats - which as a (then) journalist on The Times he really should have known. Payne deleted the tweet instead of acknowledging the error after the inevitable pile on ensued. During his tenure at the FT he produced what was a classic piece of client journalism in a profile of Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson - it was so utterly hagiograpic you would think he was auditioning for the role of official biographer. 🫤 Also paid a visit to Gateshead during the 2017 GE campaign to claim the Labour vote had cratered and the Tories could well win it - they actually fell short by over 17k votes. |
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Post by cogload on Jun 4, 2024 18:12:01 GMT
The broken heartlands book is one I should get though. It does have good reviews and he is from the north east so the perspective will be interesting.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 4, 2024 18:24:23 GMT
Sebastian E Payne's most (in)famous moment is when he tweeted that Leo Varadkar had "lost his seat" in Dublin South and that "politics was a brutal business" with almost undisguised glee - it was then pointed out that Varadkar had finished 2nd on 1st preferences and that Ireland used STV and multi member seats - which as a (then) journalist on The Times he really should have known. Varadkar represents Dublin West but other than that - yes, very silly error for a professional journalist specialising in politics to make. There isn't currently a Dáil constituency simply called Dublin South. It was abolished in 2016 and the majority of it became part of Dublin Rathdown. |
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Post by cogload on Jun 5, 2024 3:34:25 GMT
Sebastian E Payne failed in his attempt for the Conservative nomination by 2 votes. Ed "Liz Truss - a force for good" McGuinness was successful instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 4:10:52 GMT
Sebastian E Payne failed in his attempt for the Conservative nomination by 2 votes. Ed "Liz Truss - a force for good" McGuinness was successful instead. Payne actually got the most votes on the first round but got gazumped on the second ballot. Liz Truss clearly won the members' vote in 2022, and so may still be popular with constituency associations. |
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Post by mattb on Jun 5, 2024 5:43:46 GMT
Sebastian E Payne failed in his attempt for the Conservative nomination by 2 votes. Ed "Liz Truss - a force for good" McGuinness was successful instead. Payne actually got the most votes on the first round but got gazumped on the second ballot. Liz Truss clearly won the members' vote in 2022, and so may still be popular with constituency associations. FPTP good enough for public elections, but not for internal Tory elections?! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 5:44:56 GMT
Payne actually got the most votes on the first round but got gazumped on the second ballot. Liz Truss clearly won the members' vote in 2022, and so may still be popular with constituency associations. FPTP good enough for public elections, but not for internal Tory elections?! AV for me, FPTP for thee |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 5, 2024 5:51:21 GMT
Payne actually got the most votes on the first round but got gazumped on the second ballot. Liz Truss clearly won the members' vote in 2022, and so may still be popular with constituency associations. FPTP good enough for public elections, but not for internal Tory elections?! You don't become the most successful political party in British history by keeping hypocrisy at arm's length. |
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Post by wallington on Jun 5, 2024 18:23:21 GMT
Sebastian E Payne failed in his attempt for the Conservative nomination by 2 votes. Ed "Liz Truss - a force for good" McGuinness was successful instead. Pouring one out tonight.... idea for a podcast, Payne and Mason discuss the selection process. |
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Post by iain on Jun 8, 2024 13:31:37 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 9, 2024 9:13:34 GMT
Much amusement in this constituency. The new Conservative candidate has announced he has a 'home in the constituency':
Which turned out to be an AirBnB:
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 9, 2024 9:29:10 GMT
Seriously, why do they do stuff like this?
It just shows the underlying contempt so many Tories now have for the voters, and admittedly small in themselves things like the above all add up.
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Post by cogload on Jun 11, 2024 7:34:36 GMT
Safe seats innit. Representing a constituency is secondary to playing the game.
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