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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 7, 2024 10:22:26 GMT
Rochester ceased to be a City at midnight on 31 March 1998 when the City of Rochester upon Medway council was abolished and replaced by Medway unitary council.
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Post by carolus on Jul 7, 2024 10:43:48 GMT
The Tories also lost the Cities of London and Westminster so that's two cathedral cities in one seat. So the Tory cathedral cities are Hereford, Ripon and Salisbury. Southwell
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 10:46:36 GMT
The Tories also lost the Cities of London and Westminster so that's two cathedral cities in one seat. So the Tory cathedral cities are Hereford, Ripon and Salisbury. Southwell
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Hereford was a good result for them, since the Lib Dems held that seat up to 2010. Skipton and Ripon was split opposition. Salisbury was a more convincing win. |
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Post by carolus on Jul 7, 2024 10:47:33 GMT
Southwell
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Hereford was a good result for them, since the Lib Dems held that seat up to 2010. Skipton and Ripon was split opposition. Salisbury was a more convincing win. Leicester has a Conservative MP, though the Cathedral isn't in his constituency. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 10:48:28 GMT
Hereford was a good result for them, since the Lib Dems held that seat up to 2010. Skipton and Ripon was split opposition. Salisbury was a more convincing win. Leicester has a Conservative MP, though the Cathedral isn't in his constituency. It is the only cathedral city represented by an independent I think? |
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Post by matureleft on Jul 7, 2024 11:20:49 GMT
Obviously big cities with cathedrals are rather different but the smaller cathedral cities (of which Chichester is a good example) have a different feel than towns of a similar size. Obviously they often have a fairly large church property and employment footprint (it’s not just a cathedral) and a slightly churchy feel. And that is no longer something that readily attaches to the modern Tory party.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jul 7, 2024 12:31:06 GMT
Leicester has a Conservative MP, though the Cathedral isn't in his constituency. It is the only cathedral city represented by an independent I think? Birmingham, though again the cathedral is not in his constituency. |
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Post by greenhert on Jul 7, 2024 21:21:27 GMT
Southwell
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Hereford was a good result for them, since the Lib Dems held that seat up to 2010. Skipton and Ripon was split opposition. Salisbury was a more convincing win. Salisbury featured a split opposition as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 1:26:27 GMT
Hereford was a good result for them, since the Lib Dems held that seat up to 2010. Skipton and Ripon was split opposition. Salisbury was a more convincing win. Salisbury featured a split opposition as well. The fact that Skipton & Ripon was closer than Salisbury?! Make it make sense! What the fuck? I wonder if less CAP funding has hurt the Yorks. agricultural voter. |
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Post by Foggy on Jul 8, 2024 3:54:48 GMT
Hereford was a good result for them, since the Lib Dems held that seat up to 2010. Skipton and Ripon was split opposition. Salisbury was a more convincing win. Leicester has a Conservative MP, though the Cathedral isn't in his constituency. Has Shivani Raja undergone a realignment operation over the weekend? |
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Post by greenchristian on Jul 8, 2024 20:39:02 GMT
It is the only cathedral city represented by an independent I think? Birmingham, though again the cathedral is not in his constituency. And it also has one Conservative MP (also not containing the cathedral), regardless of what pitchfork-wielding residents of Sutton Coldfield might say about where they live. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jul 8, 2024 21:11:27 GMT
Birmingham, though again the cathedral is not in his constituency. And it also has one Conservative MP (also not containing the cathedral), regardless of what pitchfork-wielding residents of Sutton Coldfield might say about where they live. Yup, they have B postcodes, 0121 phone numbers and they elect members to Birmingham city council. It's pretty cut and dried, all things considered. But they do have their parish (town) council. |
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Post by heslingtonian on Jul 8, 2024 21:26:54 GMT
If we are counting Catholic cathedrals, Brentwood also.
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Post by heslingtonian on Jul 8, 2024 21:28:49 GMT
Hereford must be one of the largest places by population to still have a Conservative MP discounting urban and suburban areas.
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Post by cathyc on Jul 8, 2024 21:29:34 GMT
If we are counting Catholic cathedrals, Brentwood also. Arundel? |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jul 8, 2024 21:32:33 GMT
If we are counting Catholic cathedrals, Brentwood also. Arundel? Birmingham too (vis-a-vis Sutton Coldfield). It's rather impressive, perhaps more so than the Anglican equivalent, though that one has the Burne-Jones stained glass windows. I will confess to not knowing where all the Roman Catholic cathedrals in England are, though I do know that Middlesbrough and Northampton are among them. I may also have this wrong, but I think that the English RC church has more Archbishops than the CofE, which has but two, Canterbury and York. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Jul 9, 2024 20:58:05 GMT
So where did the Lib Dem votes come from this time? I thought the city was traditionally good territory for them but that the countryside was not and always outvoted the city?
31% swing Con to Lib Dem is astonishing.
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Post by jakegb on Jul 9, 2024 21:45:20 GMT
So where did the Lib Dem votes come from this time? I thought the city was traditionally good territory for them but that the countryside was not and always outvoted the city? 31% swing Con to Lib Dem is astonishing. The seat is more urban than before; some of the South Downs villages (in the north) have left the seat. But even so, exactly the same seat would not have saved Keegan, far from it. Extraordinary result - this is the biggest Cons to LD swing that I know about in this election - but happy to be corrected. |
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Post by carolus on Jul 9, 2024 21:51:53 GMT
So where did the Lib Dem votes come from this time? I thought the city was traditionally good territory for them but that the countryside was not and always outvoted the city? 31% swing Con to Lib Dem is astonishing. The seat is more urban than before; some of the South Downs villages (in the north) have left the seat. But even so, exactly the same seat would not have saved Keegan, far from it. Extraordinary result - this is the biggest Cons to LD swing that I know about in this election - but happy to be corrected. It's the highest in "normal" seats - it's beaten by Honiton & Sidmouth and North Shropshire but of course both have the byelection effect. Bloomberg are helpful for this www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-uk-election-results/parties/liberal-democrat/ |
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Post by steve on Jul 10, 2024 22:05:57 GMT
Salisbury featured a split opposition as well. The fact that Skipton & Ripon was closer than Salisbury?! Make it make sense! What the fuck? I wonder if less CAP funding has hurt the Yorks. agricultural voter. Mind you if you go back to the early 70s Ripon elected a Liberal MP in a by-election and they came within 600 votes of taking Skipton at the Oct '74 GE. Salisbury hasn't really come close to electing sma non-Tory during that time. |
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