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Post by yellowperil on Jul 2, 2024 19:42:10 GMT
Thanks for the correction from someone whose local knowledge is better than mine, obviously. If you were passing through as you typed I would like to think you weren't driving.
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 2, 2024 20:34:20 GMT
Thanks for the correction from someone whose local knowledge is better than mine, obviously. If you were passing through as you typed I would like to think you weren't driving. On the train on the way back from a campaigning session in Chichester itself you'll be relieved to know... The Witterings result was: BALLANTYNE, Iain Rollo Liberal Democrats 1,234 (Elected) BARRETT, Graeme Arthur Frederick No Desc 591 CHILTON, Mark Adrian Liberal Democrats 1,302 (Elected) EL-BATAL, Joanna The Conservative Party Candidate 996 HAMILTON, Elizabeth Angela Booth The Conservative Party Candidate 1,118 (Elected) HUNT, Maureen Patricia Reform UK 172 O`SULLIVAN, Patrick Joseph Labour Party 374 TAYLOR, Susan Therese The Conservative Party Candidate 1,099 THOMPSON, David John Liberal Democrats 1,112 |
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Post by YL on Jul 5, 2024 0:40:52 GMT
Lib Dems claiming victory.
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 5, 2024 19:40:30 GMT
This was entirely unsurprising.
As an aside, the Lib Dem HQ in Chichester is called Richard Cobden House. He was born in Heyshott, near Midhurst, which now sits outside the constituency but is in the district.
I think he'd be somewhat satisfied by this result...
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Post by Clark on Jul 6, 2024 6:30:48 GMT
The margin of defeat for Keegan was astonishing
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2024 6:32:33 GMT
I thought the Lib Dems would take this because Gillian is awful, but that was something else. The tide has gone out for the Tories in Chichester harbour. Are Ripon and Salisbury the only cathedral cities with a Conservative MP now? They lost Ely, Wells, and don't hold St Asaph, Chichester, Rochester etc. Does somewhere in the Scottish Borders or Aberdeenshire have a cathedral city I'm unaware of? Probably LOL.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 6, 2024 7:15:09 GMT
This was entirely unsurprising. As an aside, the Lib Dem HQ in Chichester is called Richard Cobden House. He was born in Heyshott, near Midhurst, which now sits outside the constituency but is in the district. I think he'd be somewhat satisfied by this result... He might regard it as a bright new day. |
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Post by matureleft on Jul 6, 2024 7:21:05 GMT
This was entirely unsurprising. As an aside, the Lib Dem HQ in Chichester is called Richard Cobden House. He was born in Heyshott, near Midhurst, which now sits outside the constituency but is in the district. I think he'd be somewhat satisfied by this result... Yup. Reform’s efforts merely widened the margin. As a resident until recently it was pretty clear what was happening and as a Labour member mildly depressing as the squeeze was applied. A fairly expensive effort was put in before the election with a lot of literature. The candidate appeared carefully chosen for the task. The preceding local elections were well-run and highly successful. There was a pretty clunky and unnecessary (as Labour nationally and regionally was understandably uninterested in the seat despite silly MRP polling) appproach to local Labour to encourage support and they managed to upset the local Greens who have some local government presence, but basically a professional job. I assume it was a pretty early serious target. The demographics of the area aren’t great for either Reform or a Tory party inclined that way. This will be the sort of place where “planning reform” is going to be pretty pressing for an MP and council. The council was struggling with development and infrastructure pressures so she will be pretty busy. |
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Post by johnloony on Jul 6, 2024 12:08:08 GMT
The margin of defeat for Keegan was astonishing When she came to help our campaign I was amused by the fact that the MP for Chichester was in Chichester Road |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 6, 2024 13:48:38 GMT
This was entirely unsurprising. As an aside, the Lib Dem HQ in Chichester is called Richard Cobden House. He was born in Heyshott, near Midhurst, which now sits outside the constituency but is in the district. I think he'd be somewhat satisfied by this result... Yup. Reform’s efforts merely widened the margin. As a resident until recently it was pretty clear what was happening and as a Labour member mildly depressing as the squeeze was applied. A fairly expensive effort was put in before the election with a lot of literature. The candidate appeared carefully chosen for the task. The preceding local elections were well-run and highly successful. There was a pretty clunky and unnecessary (as Labour nationally and regionally was understandably uninterested in the seat despite silly MRP polling) appproach to local Labour to encourage support and they managed to upset the local Greens who have some local government presence, but basically a professional job. I assume it was a pretty early serious target. The demographics of the area aren’t great for either Reform or a Tory party inclined that way. This will be the sort of place where “planning reform” is going to be pretty pressing for an MP and council. The council was struggling with development and infrastructure pressures so she will be pretty busy. I was there on Tuesday (my second visit) and it was so obvious that the tactical message was deeply, deeply ingrained as was a shift from Conservative among their historic voters (this was in Chi City itself). The team in the constituency was very well organised, united and ambitious, I really don't think the Tories knew what hit them despite the warning shot they'd had from the locals last year. As with Horsham, the urbanisation of seats like these (ironically rocket-fuelled by previously Conservative run local authorities who favoured development around the main settlements so as not to upset their support in villages) gives the Tories long term demographic issues, which as you say will be exacerbated if the Tories tack to full on RefUK voter chasing. Obviously, with the success in the GE for both parties, a pretty major aim for Lib Dem and Labour in West Sussex is to kick the Conservatives out of County Hall which would then enable more work on the infrastructure side which has been seriously neglected in recent years (the roads are diabolical for starters). |
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Post by matureleft on Jul 6, 2024 15:04:30 GMT
Yup. Reform’s efforts merely widened the margin. As a resident until recently it was pretty clear what was happening and as a Labour member mildly depressing as the squeeze was applied. A fairly expensive effort was put in before the election with a lot of literature. The candidate appeared carefully chosen for the task. The preceding local elections were well-run and highly successful. There was a pretty clunky and unnecessary (as Labour nationally and regionally was understandably uninterested in the seat despite silly MRP polling) appproach to local Labour to encourage support and they managed to upset the local Greens who have some local government presence, but basically a professional job. I assume it was a pretty early serious target. The demographics of the area aren’t great for either Reform or a Tory party inclined that way. This will be the sort of place where “planning reform” is going to be pretty pressing for an MP and council. The council was struggling with development and infrastructure pressures so she will be pretty busy. I was there on Tuesday (my second visit) and it was so obvious that the tactical message was deeply, deeply ingrained as was a shift from Conservative among their historic voters (this was in Chi City itself). The team in the constituency was very well organised, united and ambitious, I really don't think the Tories knew what hit them despite the warning shot they'd had from the locals last year. As with Horsham, the urbanisation of seats like these (ironically rocket-fuelled by previously Conservative run local authorities who favoured development around the main settlements so as not to upset their support in villages) gives the Tories long term demographic issues, which as you say will be exacerbated if the Tories tack to full on RefUK voter chasing. Obviously, with the success in the GE for both parties, a pretty major aim for Lib Dem and Labour in West Sussex is to kick the Conservatives out of County Hall which would then enable more work on the infrastructure side which has been seriously neglected in recent years (the roads are diabolical for starters). Quote your last para to particularly like. Bus services are also miserable. My partner lives in Brighton and the comparison is breathtaking between there and areas like Worthing and Chichester. |
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Post by akmd on Jul 6, 2024 15:07:13 GMT
Obviously, with the success in the GE for both parties, a pretty major aim for Lib Dem and Labour in West Sussex is to kick the Conservatives out of County Hall which would then enable more work on the infrastructure side which has been seriously neglected in recent years (the roads are diabolical for starters). There must be a good chance of that happening in next year’s county council elections given the results in West Sussex on Thursday and in the last two local election cycles. |
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Post by steve on Jul 6, 2024 18:03:06 GMT
Obviously, with the success in the GE for both parties, a pretty major aim for Lib Dem and Labour in West Sussex is to kick the Conservatives out of County Hall which would then enable more work on the infrastructure side which has been seriously neglected in recent years (the roads are diabolical for starters). There must be a good chance of that happening in next year’s county council elections given the results in West Sussex on Thursday and in the last two local election cycles. The Conservatives are out of office nationally but they're still going to take a bashing at most County Halls around the country next year. |
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Post by mboy on Jul 7, 2024 7:59:45 GMT
So basically its 1974 and 1983 and 2010 and 2019 again and the Lib Dems are fancying their chances everywhere and will end up massively underperforming relative to the ramping of them and their online cheerleaders Just bumping this for a chuckle  |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jul 7, 2024 8:13:02 GMT
So basically its 1974 and 1983 and 2010 and 2019 again and the Lib Dems are fancying their chances everywhere and will end up massively underperforming relative to the ramping of them and their online cheerleaders Just bumping this for a chuckle It was said in the yellow room on polling day that HQ were supporting GOTV operations in (IIRC) 76 seats. Allowing for a few that just got away (Godalming and Ash, Hinckley and Bosworth and maybe a couple more plus some stretch targets) and adding a surprise or two (NE Hampshire for one), that's a pretty good hit rate. |
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Post by monksfield on Jul 7, 2024 8:33:01 GMT
I thought the Lib Dems would take this because Gillian is awful, but that was something else. The tide has gone out for the Tories in Chichester harbour. Are Ripon and Salisbury the only cathedral cities with a Conservative MP now? They lost Ely, Wells, and don't hold St Asaph, Chichester, Rochester etc. Does somewhere in the Scottish Borders or Aberdeenshire have a cathedral city I'm unaware of? Probably LOL. Hereford |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 8:34:24 GMT
I thought the Lib Dems would take this because Gillian is awful, but that was something else. The tide has gone out for the Tories in Chichester harbour. Are Ripon and Salisbury the only cathedral cities with a Conservative MP now? They lost Ely, Wells, and don't hold St Asaph, Chichester, Rochester etc. Does somewhere in the Scottish Borders or Aberdeenshire have a cathedral city I'm unaware of? Probably LOL. Hereford The Tories also lost the Cities of London and Westminster so that's two cathedral cities in one seat. So the Tory cathedral cities are Hereford, Ripon and Salisbury. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jul 7, 2024 8:49:08 GMT
I thought the Lib Dems would take this because Gillian is awful, but that was something else. The tide has gone out for the Tories in Chichester harbour. Are Ripon and Salisbury the only cathedral cities with a Conservative MP now? They lost Ely, Wells, and don't hold St Asaph, Chichester, Rochester etc. Does somewhere in the Scottish Borders or Aberdeenshire have a cathedral city I'm unaware of? Probably LOL. Rochester is not a city. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 8:55:46 GMT
I thought the Lib Dems would take this because Gillian is awful, but that was something else. The tide has gone out for the Tories in Chichester harbour. Are Ripon and Salisbury the only cathedral cities with a Conservative MP now? They lost Ely, Wells, and don't hold St Asaph, Chichester, Rochester etc. Does somewhere in the Scottish Borders or Aberdeenshire have a cathedral city I'm unaware of? Probably LOL. Rochester is not a city. Correct. Rochester lost city status in 2009, IIRC. |
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