Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 15, 2024 17:40:52 GMT
I think he was asking @weld.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 15, 2024 18:00:36 GMT
I think he was asking @weld. I was.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 21:09:23 GMT
The school is pretty awful, IMHO. Are you an alumnus of Dulwich College as well, then? No, although I know it has produced a few wrong-runs, like Mark Clarke and Nigel Farage.
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 15, 2024 21:14:13 GMT
Are you an alumnus of Dulwich College as well, then? No, although I know it has produced a few wrong-runs, like Mark Clarke and Nigel Farage. Well most schools have.
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Post by iainbhx on Jun 15, 2024 21:16:53 GMT
No, although I know it has produced a few wrong-runs, like Mark Clarke and Nigel Farage. Well most schools have. You could produce a multi-volume work of wrong 'uns who went to Eton.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 21:18:31 GMT
Harrison is good - if it comes to a fight between Eton (Harrison) and Dulwich (Farage) in a Tory leadership race, Eton should prevail over the South London cesspit. That appears to me to be a monumentally wrong-headed and stupid remark, predicated on a set of circumstances unlikely in the extreme to occur with added aggravation. Dulwich has attractive parts with some fine architecture and an important and significant art gallery. The premise of judging candidate quality on the basis of a misunderstanding of the qualities of where they were schooled (in quite different periods) is beyond absurdity. What was the point of this post? Mark my words, this will be the most important constituency result for the Conservatives since Bexley in 1966. I do believe Harrison is someone who could make the Tories electable again and he would be a wise pick for leader in 2024 or 2029. He strikes me as the heir to Cameron and Osborne and the 2015 Tory coalition.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 15, 2024 21:25:16 GMT
That appears to me to be a monumentally wrong-headed and stupid remark, predicated on a set of circumstances unlikely in the extreme to occur with added aggravation. Dulwich has attractive parts with some fine architecture and an important and significant art gallery. The premise of judging candidate quality on the basis of a misunderstanding of the qualities of where they were schooled (in quite different periods) is beyond absurdity. What was the point of this post? Mark my words, this will be the most important constituency result for the Conservatives since Bexley in 1966. I do believe Harrison is someone who could make the Tories electable again and he would be a wise pick for leader in 2024 or 2029. He strikes me as the heir to Cameron and Osborne and the 2015 Tory coalition. And you state all that as if it is some sort of obvious 'given'. What you set out is not appealing to me at all. Cameron, Osborne and coalition are a complete turn off for many of us old chap; especially 'coalition'!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 21:28:58 GMT
Mark my words, this will be the most important constituency result for the Conservatives since Bexley in 1966. I do believe Harrison is someone who could make the Tories electable again and he would be a wise pick for leader in 2024 or 2029. He strikes me as the heir to Cameron and Osborne and the 2015 Tory coalition. And you state all that as if it is some sort of obvious 'given'. What you set out is not appealing to me at all. Cameron, Osborne and coalition are a complete turn off for many of us old chap; especially 'coalition'! I'm quite clearly talking about the coalition that gave the Conservatives a majority in 2015 (and in 1992) which seems more achievable than the flash-in-the-pan Johnson coalition which fell away after his departure. I respectfully point out that it appealed to enough people for the Tories to win the election. I know it's not a given that he bags the top job, but Harrison's a talented bloke and the Tories have demonstrably purged a lot of talent (rightly or wrongly) since the Brexit vote.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 15, 2024 21:35:30 GMT
And you state all that as if it is some sort of obvious 'given'. What you set out is not appealing to me at all. Cameron, Osborne and coalition are a complete turn off for many of us old chap; especially 'coalition'! I'm quite clearly talking about the coalition that gave the Conservatives a majority in 2015 (and in 1992) which seems more achievable than the flash-in-the-pan Johnson coalition which fell away after his departure. I respectfully point out that it appealed to enough people for the Tories to win the election. I know it's not a given that he bags the top job, but Harrison's a talented bloke and the Tories have demonstrably purged a lot of talent (rightly or wrongly) since the Brexit vote. Have you considered that we may have different objectives, a different agenda and like different sorts of politician. I am not a centrist, social democrat conservative. And I am not prepared to ditch base principles in order to appeal to a wider audience and grasp for the levers of power. I am not seeking to be in office for the sake of it. I would rather not be in office at all than behave as the Conservative Party has done for much of the past 10 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 21:39:19 GMT
I'm quite clearly talking about the coalition that gave the Conservatives a majority in 2015 (and in 1992) which seems more achievable than the flash-in-the-pan Johnson coalition which fell away after his departure. I respectfully point out that it appealed to enough people for the Tories to win the election. I know it's not a given that he bags the top job, but Harrison's a talented bloke and the Tories have demonstrably purged a lot of talent (rightly or wrongly) since the Brexit vote. Have you considered that we may have different objectives, a different agenda and like different sorts of politician. I am not a centrist, social democrat conservative. And I am not prepared to ditch base principles in order to appeal to a wider audience and grasp for the levers of power. I am not seeking to be in office for the sake of it. I would rather not be in office at all than behave as the Conservative Party has done for much of the past 10 years. Fair enough. I respect that view.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jun 15, 2024 21:46:46 GMT
Are you an alumnus of Dulwich College as well, then? No, although I know it has produced a few wrong-runs, like Mark Clarke and Nigel Farage. On the other hand: P G Wodehouse and Raymond Chandler.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 15, 2024 21:56:47 GMT
No, although I know it has produced a few wrong-runs, like Mark Clarke and Nigel Farage. On the other hand: P G Wodehouse and Raymond Chandler. And my own Father about 10-years later.
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Post by bjornhattan on Jun 15, 2024 22:27:09 GMT
No, although I know it has produced a few wrong-runs, like Mark Clarke and Nigel Farage. Well most schools have. It could be worse, it could be Seb Payne. And he wrote a massive article decrying us in the Spectator!
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 15, 2024 22:30:15 GMT
It could be worse, it could be Seb Payne. And he wrote a massive article decrying us in the Spectator! Us?
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Post by bjornhattan on Jun 15, 2024 23:00:14 GMT
It could be worse, it could be Seb Payne. And he wrote a massive article decrying us in the Spectator! Us? Well, my old school - I still have more loyalty to it than he evidently does.
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Post by batman on Jun 16, 2024 1:45:43 GMT
Not many well-known pols have been to my school but a major exception to that is Gideon Osborne. I have no loyalty to it though not for that reason
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 4:38:08 GMT
From my old stomping ground (Ousedale School, Bucks), we have Andrew Pakes (who's likely to get elected Labour MP for Peterborough this year).
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jun 16, 2024 6:31:37 GMT
I had wondered where you’d had your sparkling wit and ability for incisive independent thought schooled into you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 6:34:02 GMT
I had wondered where you’d had your sparkling wit and ability for incisive independent thought schooled into you. One has achieved things despite (patchy) state education rather than because of it. And it's changed your day, comprehensive are good now. Let's get back to Bicester, as John Major almost certainly didn't say. It seems the more the forum learn about the Tory, the more chance they think he has of bagging this. The poll narrows by the day.
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Post by iainbhx on Jun 16, 2024 8:47:19 GMT
From my old stomping ground (Ousedale School, Bucks), we have Andrew Pakes (who's likely to get elected Labour MP for Peterborough this year). And Sharon from Eastenders.
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