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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 15, 2020 18:28:08 GMT
Would there be any scope for a Quebec sovereigntist party to do well in Northern New Brunswick on "Francophone rights" or "unite with Quebec for greater devolution" platform? Exactly the same i was considering, too.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 15, 2020 18:31:07 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Sept 15, 2020 19:32:38 GMT
Turnout was surprisingly good at 66.14%; despite the coronavirus pandemic turnout only dropped by 1.2% on 2018.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 15, 2020 20:11:43 GMT
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Post by Foggy on Sept 15, 2020 20:57:51 GMT
A mere 2 seats in the northern half of the province went to the Conservatives (one of those a gain!) and neither of those touches the very northern tip of its borders. In the deeply blue south, only one constituency was won by a francophone who will probably now get into the Cabinet by default.He was going to get in anyways, he was a star candidate, former CEO of NB Liquor. He wouldn't have left the corporate world without a good reason. Thanks for the additional info. I hadn't realised he was high up in that industry. The point stands, though, that it would be a bad look if the only French-speaking Tory (even if not a star candidate) were excluded from the Cabinet table.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 15, 2020 22:32:01 GMT
Would there be any scope for a Quebec sovereigntist party to do well in Northern New Brunswick on "Francophone rights" or "unite with Quebec for greater devolution" platform? maxque is your best bet on this question. But my understanding is that there isn't much demand, and I am sure there was a lot of anger years ago about selling the state power utility to Hydro Quebec. I'm struggling to think of famous people from New Brunswick. I can think of two Francophone singers (Roch Voisine and Natasha St Pier, who I once accidentally encountered in person) but they aren't very famous outside the French world.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 15, 2020 22:40:25 GMT
Would there be any scope for a Quebec sovereigntist party to do well in Northern New Brunswick on "Francophone rights" or "unite with Quebec for greater devolution" platform? maxque is your best bet on this question. But my understanding is that there isn't much demand, and I am sure there was a lot of anger years ago about selling the state power utility to Hydro Quebec. I'm struggling to think of famous people from New Brunswick. I can think of two Francophone singers (Roch Voisine and Natasha St Pier, who I once accidentally encountered in person) but they aren't very famous outside the French world. Natasha st Pier represented France in the 2001 Eurovision. Absolutely robbed.
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Post by maxque on Sept 15, 2020 23:14:15 GMT
Would there be any scope for a Quebec sovereigntist party to do well in Northern New Brunswick on "Francophone rights" or "unite with Quebec for greater devolution" platform? maxque is your best bet on this question. But my understanding is that there isn't much demand, and I am sure there was a lot of anger years ago about selling the state power utility to Hydro Quebec. I'm struggling to think of famous people from New Brunswick. I can think of two Francophone singers (Roch Voisine and Natasha St Pier, who I once accidentally encountered in person) but they aren't very famous outside the French world. Francophones hors Quebec, especially the older ones actually resent Quebec nationalists, considering the Quebec independence project as abandonning their Francophones brothers and sisters out of Quebec. The large protests against cuts to NB French healthcare and Ontario French education were actually the first time since the 60's that Quebec nationalists and out-of-Quebec Francophones worked together.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 16, 2020 6:47:01 GMT
Would there be any scope for a Quebec sovereigntist party to do well in Northern New Brunswick on "Francophone rights" or "unite with Quebec for greater devolution" platform? maxque is your best bet on this question. But my understanding is that there isn't much demand, and I am sure there was a lot of anger years ago about selling the state power utility to Hydro Quebec. I'm struggling to think of famous people from New Brunswick. I can think of two Francophone singers (Roch Voisine and Natasha St Pier, who I once accidentally encountered in person) but they aren't very famous outside the French world. I believe BBC journalist and reporter Lyse Doucet is from NB.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 16, 2020 8:09:05 GMT
maxque is your best bet on this question. But my understanding is that there isn't much demand, and I am sure there was a lot of anger years ago about selling the state power utility to Hydro Quebec. I'm struggling to think of famous people from New Brunswick. I can think of two Francophone singers (Roch Voisine and Natasha St Pier, who I once accidentally encountered in person) but they aren't very famous outside the French world. Natasha st Pier represented France in the 2001 Eurovision. Absolutely robbed. She has moved to France these days and developed an accent that sounds like it is straight from a GCSE listening exercise. I believe it is the subject of much mockery in NB. I don't think her career ever recovered from brushing past me on the terrace of a café as her handlers bundled her out of the fire exit of the Liège Forum.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 16, 2020 11:40:23 GMT
maxque is your best bet on this question. But my understanding is that there isn't much demand, and I am sure there was a lot of anger years ago about selling the state power utility to Hydro Quebec. I'm struggling to think of famous people from New Brunswick. I can think of two Francophone singers (Roch Voisine and Natasha St Pier, who I once accidentally encountered in person) but they aren't very famous outside the French world. Francophones hors Quebec, especially the older ones actually resent Quebec nationalists, considering the Quebec independence project as abandonning their Francophones brothers and sisters out of Quebec. The large protests against cuts to NB French healthcare and Ontario French education were actually the first time since the 60's that Quebec nationalists and out-of-Quebec Francophones worked together. And if northern NB moved to Quebec the other French in the Maritimes would be left alone - and they are not so few:
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Post by greenhert on Sept 16, 2020 12:02:41 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 16, 2020 13:25:35 GMT
Natasha st Pier represented France in the 2001 Eurovision. Absolutely robbed. She has moved to France these days and developed an accent that sounds like it is straight from a GCSE listening exercise. I believe it is the subject of much mockery in NB. I don't think her career ever recovered from brushing past me on the terrace of a café as her handlers bundled her out of the fire exit of the Liège Forum. Almost sounds like something from Flann O'Brien
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 16, 2020 14:18:30 GMT
One of my favourite Flann O'Brien quotes: “The majority of the members of the Irish parliament are professional politicians, in the sense that otherwise they would not be given jobs minding mice at crossroads.” Seems prescient these days.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 16, 2020 14:50:08 GMT
One of my favourite Flann O'Brien quotes: “The majority of the members of the Irish parliament are professional politicians, in the sense that otherwise they would not be given jobs minding mice at crossroads.” Seems prescient these days. Mind you, opportunities in the mouse minding industry are not what they were.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 16, 2020 14:58:48 GMT
Especially with that specificity of location.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 16, 2020 17:56:52 GMT
%-change 2014-2018: Liberals: "Progressive Conservatives":
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 16, 2020 17:58:15 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 16, 2020 18:56:38 GMT
One of my favourite Flann O'Brien quotes: “The majority of the members of the Irish parliament are professional politicians, in the sense that otherwise they would not be given jobs minding mice at crossroads.” Seems prescient these days. For all of his eloquence, he never beat this sage advice, his capitals: A PINT OF PLAIN IS YOUR ONLY MAN.
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Post by Foggy on Sept 16, 2020 21:53:02 GMT
Would there be any scope for a Quebec sovereigntist party to do well in Northern New Brunswick on "Francophone rights" or "unite with Quebec for greater devolution" platform? All provinces in Canada are technically entitled to the same level of decentalisation – in practice, Québec just chooses to exercise more of it. Northern NB would probably be entitled to 3 seats in the National Assembly (out of 125) if it were join Québec, whereas right now it's got a dozen members of the Legislative Assembly (out of 49) where its specific concerns are more likely to be heard. Also, as Georg pointed out, there are francophones elsewhere in NB and the rest of Atlantic Canada who would then be left in the lurch even more than they are at the moment.
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