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Post by carlton43 on Jun 7, 2018 10:17:12 GMT
"Sartor resartus" is the title of one of CARLYLE's books, portraying a german PanTheist meditating through the night aso. Ah, you and your obscure literary references! I find that one of the more impenetrable parts of Ebner-Englisch, I must say... but I did think from the context that the term might have referred to people who stay up late. (I would not recommend following Canadian elections as a way of meditating, though.) Liberals: according to CBC 22 seats are certain, in 5 they are leading, so 27. VoteShare ~4% ahead. Well, that was quite the turnaround. Funny how counting grinds to halt for a couple of hours in a handful of key seats when there are about 10% of polls left to report. Most Nova Scotians will have gone to bed expecting a minority government. Obscure Foggy? I don't think so. It is a pivotal work by Carlyle and worth the read. It might best be put in modern mode a 'The Tailor Made-over' rather than re-tailored and reflects upon approaches to modes of thought and the basis of such thought processes.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 7, 2018 10:25:34 GMT
I mean they appear to be up at least 10pts on last time in what is still a three party province so... I was referring to the change in their vote over the course of this campaign. There was speculation that the NDP surge would never terminate however the trend is not x=y Well, some of us thought the NDP might have peaked too soon. There are signs the recent controversy over Ford might have had an effect, though, so let's see.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 7, 2018 11:02:55 GMT
Ah, you and your obscure literary references! I find that one of the more impenetrable parts of Ebner-Englisch, I must say... but I did think from the context that the term might have referred to people who stay up late. (I would not recommend following Canadian elections as a way of meditating, though.) Well, that was quite the turnaround. Funny how counting grinds to halt for a couple of hours in a handful of key seats when there are about 10% of polls left to report. Most Nova Scotians will have gone to bed expecting a minority government. Obscure Foggy? I don't think so. It is a pivotal work by Carlyle and worth the read. It might best be put in modern mode a 'The Tailor Made-over' rather than re-tailored and reflects upon approaches to modes of thought and the basis of such thought processes. DILTHEY - the theorist of historism (Himself a great historian) - called this "novel" (which is in fact rather a sermon/lecture) "the biggest ever-seen LoveDeclaration for german NeoPaganism/PanTheism and Historism".
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 7, 2018 11:24:23 GMT
Georg EbnerYou are postulating a difference between historicism and your own very Germanic concept of 'historism'? I do not like the philosophical determinism of historicism nor the concept of 'history is dead'. But historism paying close attention to the impact of a cultural past on the present is to my mind very seriously misunderstood and/or rejected by much modern historical theory. I am a follower of historism myself.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 7, 2018 12:13:26 GMT
Georg EbnerYou are postulating a difference between historicism and your own very Germanic concept of 'historism'? I do not like the philosophical determinism of historicism nor the concept of 'history is dead'. But historism paying close attention to the impact of a cultural past on the present is to my mind very seriously misunderstood and/or rejected by much modern historical theory. I am a follower of historism myself. "Some made the mistake to confuse historicism and historism. The toxin and the antitoxin. Or Hegel and Ranke. Historicism is, what Popper, historism is, what Meinecke referred to." (GOMEZ DAVILA)
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Post by greenhert on Jun 7, 2018 20:41:40 GMT
I believe that the NDP will scrape it in the end over the Progressive Conservatives, that the Liberals will be reduced to single figures in seat terms with Kathleen Wynne losing her seat, and that the Greens' Mike Schreiner will win Guelph. The Trillium Party will fail on the scale Forces et Democratie did in the 2015 Canadian federal election.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 8, 2018 0:03:30 GMT
CBC is live-streamed on YouTube (2 channels):
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Post by independentukip on Jun 8, 2018 0:39:15 GMT
CBC is live-streamed on YouTube (2 channels): 4 ethnically diverse women sitting on a sofa go to a black man standing up who links to a black man at a count. The BBC have so much still to learn.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 8, 2018 0:53:12 GMT
CBC is live-streamed on YouTube (2 channels): Thanks for reminding me about this election, I'd completely forgotten about it.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 8, 2018 1:11:13 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 8, 2018 1:20:20 GMT
And it's already over: CBC has called it for the PCs.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 8, 2018 1:38:50 GMT
PCs:
Ontario +8%
Toronto +10% GreaterToronto +12%
So D.Ford delivered, as promised.
Rather disappointing (for me at least) gains in the SW.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 8, 2018 1:50:27 GMT
Still, some good news coming out of Guelph, eh?
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 8, 2018 1:50:43 GMT
And it's already over: CBC has called it for the PCs. I think I prefer our long-winded way of getting the result. 15 minutes after the polls close to declare the winner is too quick to have any excitement or interest on election night.
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Post by Khunanup on Jun 8, 2018 1:54:15 GMT
Ontario's in for a very long four years...
Projected 8 seats for a Liberal party coming out of government, sounds familiar...
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Post by maxque on Jun 8, 2018 2:00:13 GMT
Ontario's in for a very long four years... Projected 8 seats for a Liberal party coming out of government, sounds familiar... I don't think you want to compare yourself with the ultra-corrupt OLP.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 8, 2018 2:12:02 GMT
Looks like official party status is on a knife-edge for the Liberals. There are 3 seats where their current lead is less than 100 votes. One of them is Scarborough-Guildwood, another is Thunder Bay—Atikokan.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 2:16:36 GMT
Looks like official party status is on a knife-edge for the Liberals. There are 3 seats where their current lead is less than 100 votes. One of them is Scarborough-Guildwood, another is Thunder Bay—Atikokan. Fingers crossed they lose them.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 8, 2018 2:18:33 GMT
Looks like official party status is on a knife-edge for the Liberals. There are 3 seats where their current lead is less than 100 votes. One of them is Scarborough-Guildwood, another is Thunder Bay—Atikokan. Fingers crossed they lose them. Just read an article saying the PCs might reduce the threshold because they wouldn't want all of the opposition in future to be concentrated in the hands of the NDP, and without the Liberals having official party status that might be more likely to happen.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 8, 2018 2:20:31 GMT
All 3 PartyLeaders were quite awful:
- Ford: dull - Wynne: dreadful virago - Horwath: mainly interested to "fix fairness" (i.e. her blond hair)
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