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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 21:38:11 GMT
Clapham and Brixton Hill
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 27, 2024 10:18:48 GMT
Notional results since 1945. The 2019 result is the 'official' (Thrasher & Rallings) notional - the others are my own work Clapham & Brixton Hill | | Con | Lab | Lib | Com | | | | | | | | 1945 | 37.2% | 56.0% | 6.8% | | | 1950 | 43.9% | 49.2% | 6.2% | 0.7% | | 1951 | 47.4% | 52.6% | | | | 1955 | 48.1% | 51.9% | | | | 1959 | 50.4% | 48.2% | 1.4% | | | 1964 | 43.9% | 49.5% | 5.2% | | | 1966 | 40.2% | 54.1% | 5.7% | |
| | Con | Lab | Lib/LD | NF/BNP | | | | | | | | 1970 | 47.0% | 46.0% | 6.4% | | | 1974 | 32.4% | 48.4% | 17.5% | 0.8% | | 1974 | 31.2% | 54.5% | 12.5% | 0.8% | | 1979 | 37.3% | 51.4% | 8.4% | 2.4% | | 1983 | 31.6% | 47.1% | 19.6% | 1.1% | | 1987 | 32.6% | 52.8% | 13.4% | | | 1992 | 30.8% | 57.7% | 9.0% | |
| | Con | Lab | LD | Green | Ref/UKIP/
BXP | | | | | | | | | 1997 | 19.2% | 66.8% | 11.0% | 1.0% | 1.0% | | 2001 | 17.1% | 61.1% | 13.7% | 5.2% | | | 2005 | 18.4% | 54.6% | 19.4% | 5.8% | 0.9% | | 2010 | 21.5% | 49.3% | 25.7% | 1.9% | | | 2015 | 27.4% | 54.1% | 6.3% | 8.5% | 2.6% | | 2017 | 21.9% | 64.2% | 10.4% | 2.7% | 0.5% | | 2019 | 19.5% | 55.4% | 19.8% | 4.2% | 1.1% |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 7, 2024 22:51:22 GMT
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Post by right on Jun 20, 2024 9:11:33 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 20, 2024 9:14:21 GMT
The 'impossibilists'. For several decades they have had the nickname 'The Socialist Party of Clapham'. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 20, 2024 9:57:40 GMT
It’s not a Socialist Party leaflet. It wasn’t until I scrolled down tomthe bottom of the second page, but it’s a leaflet for the SPGB. |
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Post by right on Jun 20, 2024 10:01:37 GMT
It’s not a Socialist Party leaflet. It wasn’t until I scrolled down tomthe bottom of the second page, but it’s a leaflet for the SPGB. That's a Socialist Party with a longer lasting claim to the title than those Trotsky worshipping cuckoos |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 20, 2024 11:16:23 GMT
The 'impossibilists'. For several decades they have had the nickname 'The Socialist Party of Clapham'. Someone also called them the "Small Party of Good Boys" |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jun 20, 2024 12:13:39 GMT
Why the bloody "and" in this one too? Is Brixton Hill even a real place? It sounds like it was made up by an estate agent.
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Post by batman on Jun 20, 2024 12:30:54 GMT
It is a reasonable name. Brixton is very clearly a separate community from Clapham. However, while almost all of Clapham (as opposed to the misleadingly named Clapham Junction) is in this seat, only some of Brixton is. The insertion of the word Hill gives us a concise and reasonable explanation of which bits of Brixton are included. In all modesty I’d urge you to read the constituency profile in the Almanac section
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jun 20, 2024 14:21:58 GMT
It is a reasonable name. Brixton is very clearly a separate community from Clapham. However, while almost all of Clapham (as opposed to the misleadingly named Clapham Junction) is in this seat, only some of Brixton is. The insertion of the word Hill gives us a concise and reasonable explanation of which bits of Brixton are included. In all modesty I’d urge you to read the constituency profile in the Almanac section London constituencies have obviously always included more than the suburb in the name. The minor ones don't need to be listed separately. It's not like the neighbouring constituency's called Tooting and Wandsworth Hill, even though Earlsfield is more obviously separate from Tooting than Brixton is from Clapham. It would have been more reasonable to call this one Lambeth West if people from Brixton find the idea of living in the Clapham constituency that appalling. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 20, 2024 16:25:17 GMT
Although much of Brixton itself was never in the parliamentary constituency so called (incuding for example Railton Road), too much is excluded from this seat to justify the use of 'Brixton' without the 'Hill' qualifier. For that reason I agree with 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ here that plain Clapham should have been adopted as the name. If Brixton really must be namechecked in a constituency name then just draw the sodding boundaries so you have a seat encompassing the whole area (which wouldn't be difficult to do but, as I say, has never actually happened) |
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Post by rogerg on Jun 20, 2024 16:57:10 GMT
The Brixton Hill bit existed happily in the Streatham constituency for 25 years without it needing to be Streatham & Brixton Hill… The alternative the BCE started with here was Lambeth Central, but I am with the others that would have gone with just Clapham. I’d have dumped & Harlington; & Old Southwark; & Shoreditch; & Stoke Newington too which are just the ghosts of long defunct boroughs.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 20, 2024 17:10:59 GMT
The Brixton Hill bit existed happily in the Streatham constituency for 25 years without it needing to be Streatham & Brixton Hill… The alternative the BCE started with here was Lambeth Central, but I am with the others that would have gone with just Clapham. I’d have dumped & Harlington; & Old Southwark; & Shoreditch; & Stoke Newington too which are just the ghosts of long defunct boroughs. 41 in fact |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 20, 2024 17:17:32 GMT
I always assumed Brixton Hill was just a road. Is it actually treated a separate part of Brixton?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 20, 2024 17:21:36 GMT
I always assumed Brixton Hill was just a road. Is it actually treated a separate part of Brixton? I'll defer to those with greather local knowledge, but as far as I'm concerned yes it is a road (and latterly a ward name of course). I suppose it may make it into Estate Agent terminology but that doesn't cut any ice AFAIC |
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Post by rogerg on Jun 20, 2024 17:25:05 GMT
I suppose. But the east side of Brixton Hill only in 1997, I think. I took it that the Brixton Hill name referred to areas on both sides of the A23 rather than just the former Brixton Hill/Town Hall ward.
The various MRPs are quite varied as to whether they think the Lib Dem 2019 vote will hang around for very distant second places in the Lambeth seats or whether the demographics and fading of Brexit means Greens will be runner up.
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Post by rogerg on Jun 20, 2024 17:29:46 GMT
I always assumed Brixton Hill was just a road. Is it actually treated a separate part of Brixton? I'll defer to those with greather local knowledge, but as far as I'm concerned yes it is a road (and latterly a ward name of course). I suppose it may make it into Estate Agent terminology but that doesn't cut any ice AFAIC It's definitely Estate Agent language but there is a bit of a sense of Brixton Hill as its own place as there are shops etc on the A23 that both sides use and everyone is united by the shared misery of waiting for buses to get to the Tube station. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 20, 2024 17:32:39 GMT
I always assumed Brixton Hill was just a road. Is it actually treated a separate part of Brixton? I'll defer to those with greather local knowledge, but as far as I'm concerned yes it is a road (and latterly a ward name of course). I suppose it may make it into Estate Agent terminology but that doesn't cut any ice AFAIC Then we must kill it with fire. Or with electric, as it is Brixton. |
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Post by islington on Jun 20, 2024 18:34:13 GMT
I'll defer to those with greather local knowledge, but as far as I'm concerned yes it is a road (and latterly a ward name of course). I suppose it may make it into Estate Agent terminology but that doesn't cut any ice AFAIC It's definitely Estate Agent language but there is a bit of a sense of Brixton Hill as its own place as there are shops etc on the A23 that both sides use and everyone is united by the shared misery of waiting for buses to get to the Tube station. Let 'em walk. It's downhill after all. Do 'em good. |
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