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Post by threecrowns on Feb 3, 2024 8:15:35 GMT
David Tully is the owner of the car repair garage; he's also a director of the Mayfield Sports Centre, which is otherwise known as Rochdale's Rugby League ground. Rochdale Mayfield are the most prominent amateur Rugby League side in the area. Rochdale Hornets are the senior side, playing in the third tier. They share Spotland with Rochdale AFC. |
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Post by bsjmcr on Feb 3, 2024 9:38:59 GMT
11 candidates despite such a short period for nominations being open. Interesting that Simon Danczuk now has an address in London, whereas less than half the candidates (5) have an address in the Rochdale constituency. In the Good Old Days it would be unusual for any candidate to 'live' in the constituency they were standing for, especially if it was a scruff-arsed dump like Rochdale! Who on earth would choose to life there as well as have the indignity of representing it? Littleborough’s alright! Then again it’s the sort of place that wouldn’t associate itself with Rochdale, much like Saddleworth is the equivalent in ‘Oldham’… |
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Post by mattbewilson on Feb 3, 2024 9:42:49 GMT
In the Good Old Days it would be unusual for any candidate to 'live' in the constituency they were standing for, especially if it was a scruff-arsed dump like Rochdale! Who on earth would choose to life there as well as have the indignity of representing it? Littleborough’s alright! Then again it’s the sort of place that wouldn’t associate itself with Rochdale, much like Saddleworth is the equivalent in ‘Oldham’… yes, feel worlds apart |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 3, 2024 11:33:07 GMT
(Cheadle 14th July 2005, 5 candidates (not sure about Leslie Leggett (Veritas)) He was male, so add that to the list. A retired police officer apparently. |
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Post by torten on Feb 3, 2024 12:35:56 GMT
Isn't there normally a few cases at every general election of only having women on the ballot, or only having men on the ballot?
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Post by maxque on Feb 3, 2024 15:42:20 GMT
Isn't there normally a few cases at every general election of only having women on the ballot, or only having men on the ballot? Yes, for example, last time, Barking only had women on the ballot and Basildon and Billericay only had men on the ballot. |
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Post by southernliberal on Feb 3, 2024 21:42:08 GMT
The last time a by-election lacked a single female candidate appears to be Newark (2014)
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Post by salopian on Feb 3, 2024 22:07:22 GMT
Question that I don't know the answer to... how many by-elections have had two or more former MPs stand, like with Galloway and Danczuk? Particularly former MPs from the same party.
The 1981 Warrington by-election, won for Labour by former Labour MP Doug Holye against former Labour MP Roy Jenkins, is the only one I can think of. There are probably more.
*EDIT* I've just remembered how much of a bloodbath the Hartlepool 2021 by-election was. Paul Davies, Thelma Williams, and Hilton Dawson!
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 3, 2024 22:21:28 GMT
Question that I don't know the answer to... how many by-elections have had two or more former MPs stand, like with Galloway and Danczuk? Particularly former MPs from the same party. The 1981 Warrington by-election, won for Labour by former Labour MP Doug Holye against former Labour MP Roy Jenkins, is the only one I can think of. There are probably more. Hartlepool in 2021 had three former Labour MPs standing - Dr Paul Williams for Labour, Thelma Walker for the Northern Independence Party, and Hilton Dawson for the North East Party Haltemprice and Howden in 2008 had two former Conservative MPs standing - the incumbent David Davis, plus Walter Sweeney as an Independent. Another example ot two former MPs standing in a byelection was Croydon North in 1948 (Harold Nicolson, former National Labour MP standing for Labour; Don Bennett standing for the Liberal Party). |
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Post by salopian on Feb 3, 2024 22:34:02 GMT
Question that I don't know the answer to... how many by-elections have had two or more former MPs stand, like with Galloway and Danczuk? Particularly former MPs from the same party. The 1981 Warrington by-election, won for Labour by former Labour MP Doug Holye against former Labour MP Roy Jenkins, is the only one I can think of. There are probably more. Hartlepool in 2021 had three former Labour MPs standing - Dr Paul Williams for Labour, Thelma Walker for the Northern Independence Party, and Hilton Dawson for the North East Party Haltemprice and Howden in 2008 had two former Conservative MPs standing - the incumbent David Davis, plus Walter Sweeney as an Independent. Another example ot two former MPs standing in a byelection was Croydon North in 1948 (Harold Nicolson, former National Labour MP standing for Labour; Don Bennett standing for the Liberal Party). I had just returned here to edit my post to mention Hartlepool, but you've beaten me to it! The Brighton Pavilion by-election in 1969 seems to have two former MPs too, Julian Amery (Preston North 1950-1966) winning for the Conservatives against Labour's Thomas Skeffington-Lodge (Bedford 1945-50). There are a handful of others, but I think I will leave that to the trivia thread rather than continue polluting the Rochdale discussion. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 3, 2024 22:56:06 GMT
There were two post war by-elections in Northern Ireland that saw two previous MPs for the seat go against each other:
Mid Ulster in 1956 when Thomas Mitchell (SF), who had been unseated on petition, restood in the by-election caused by Charles Beattie's disqualification but former MP Michael O'Neill (Nationalist, now standing for the Anti-Partition League) returned and both lost.
Fermanagh & South Tyrone in 1986 when Ken Maginnis (UUP) sought re-election in opposition to the Anglo-Irish Agreement and faced Owen Carron (SF) who he had unseated in 1983.
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Post by batman on Feb 3, 2024 23:26:06 GMT
Hartlepool in 2021 had three former Labour MPs standing - Dr Paul Williams for Labour, Thelma Walker for the Northern Independence Party, and Hilton Dawson for the North East Party Haltemprice and Howden in 2008 had two former Conservative MPs standing - the incumbent David Davis, plus Walter Sweeney as an Independent. Another example ot two former MPs standing in a byelection was Croydon North in 1948 (Harold Nicolson, former National Labour MP standing for Labour; Don Bennett standing for the Liberal Party). I had just returned here to edit my post to mention Hartlepool, but you've beaten me to it! The Brighton Pavilion by-election in 1969 seems to have two former MPs too, Julian Amery (Preston North 1950-1966) winning for the Conservatives against Labour's Thomas Skeffington-Lodge (Bedford 1945-50). There are a handful of others, but I think I will leave that to the trivia thread rather than continue polluting the Rochdale discussion. I remember Skeffington-Lodge being a member of the Brighton Labour Party when I was, but I never met him. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Feb 5, 2024 4:17:57 GMT
In the Good Old Days it would be unusual for any candidate to 'live' in the constituency they were standing for, especially if it was a scruff-arsed dump like Rochdale! Who on earth would choose to life there as well as have the indignity of representing it? It could be worse. It could be Oldham. Or Bo- |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 5, 2024 6:37:55 GMT
Also Beaconsfield in 1982 had two former MPs standing (Tim Smith and Paul Tyler) in addition to a future PM.
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Post by andrewteale on Feb 5, 2024 7:58:09 GMT
It could be worse. It could be Oldham. Or Bo- It's difficult to underestimate the level to which Lancashire and ex-Lancashire milltowns look down on each other. |
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Post by bsjmcr on Feb 5, 2024 10:32:38 GMT
It's difficult to underestimate the level to which Lancashire and ex-Lancashire milltowns look down on each other. Yet what they all have in common is a shared distaste of Manchester and certainly Greater Manchester. I know Boltonians who take pride in setting foot in Manchester as little as possible, probably going on holidays abroad more often than they go into town. Perhaps a debate for another thread, but Yorkshire on the other hand still has a much stronger identity as all areas from rural to cities, deprived towns and affluent areas like Harrogate alike all still wear the Yorkshire badge with pride in common. I guess as the new counties still have Yorkshire in the name as opposed to being ‘Greater Leeds, Sheffield, etc’. Perhaps the name GM, as much as it makes sense geographically (Sale and Stockport really are contiguous with Manchester whether they like it or not, and should get over not being in Cheshire, and as for Stalybridge…) , really ‘diluted’ the previously strong Lancashire identity. |
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Post by batman on Feb 5, 2024 12:17:27 GMT
Well that's their loss. I'd far, far rather be in Manchester than either Bolton or Rochdale, to give but two examples.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Feb 5, 2024 12:33:59 GMT
Well that's their loss. I'd far, far rather be in Manchester than either Bolton or Rochdale, to give but two examples. Depends in what area of the city as opposed to the areas of the other towns. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Feb 5, 2024 13:11:42 GMT
When people say, "I'd rather be in Manchester then Bolton", I think about those parts of the former that are rougher than parts of the latter. People usually mean, "I'd rather be in X city centre than Z city centre", I doubt they mean, "I'd rather be in Moss Side"
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Post by batman on Feb 5, 2024 13:34:48 GMT
In general yes, but I do have a very good friend in Moss Side/Whalley Range borders. And it can be very pleasant being in some of the southern suburbs of Manchester too.
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