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Post by graham on Jan 4, 2024 19:10:25 GMT
I would be very surprised if even this government voted down a parliamentary move to call this by-election. Labour would be unlikely to support another party moving the writ on account of the precedent it would set. There is no rule that stipulates that a writ has to be moved immediately a seat becomes vacant - though there is now a convention that this should 'normally' occur within three months. That could take us to Easter.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 4, 2024 19:12:15 GMT
They can only delay it if they're allowed to. The only thing stopping another party from moving the whip is convention, and delaying for no very good reason is a good way to get conventions broken. Then again, I'm not sure it would be a good strategy anyway - the circumstances they're defending the seat in are bad enough that they don't also want to be attacked for deliberately leaving the seat without representation for any extra 3 months. There are many precedents for keeping seats vacant for 3 months - and indeed longer. Were another party to move the writ the Government could use its majority to defeat the move. It would also prevent the writ being moved again in this session. Which is why, when governments are faced with unwelcome motions to move a writ, they respond not by voting it down but by a procedural motion to move to next business. |
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Post by maxque on Jan 4, 2024 23:22:56 GMT
They can only delay it if they're allowed to. The only thing stopping another party from moving the whip is convention, and delaying for no very good reason is a good way to get conventions broken. Then again, I'm not sure it would be a good strategy anyway - the circumstances they're defending the seat in are bad enough that they don't also want to be attacked for deliberately leaving the seat without representation for any extra 3 months. There are many precedents for keeping seats vacant for 3 months - and indeed longer. Were another party to move the writ the Government could use its majority to defeat the move. It would also prevent the writ being moved again in this session. If the GE is in the fall, they want that by-election ASAP, not during the locals. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 5, 2024 19:22:59 GMT
I would be very surprised if even this government voted down a parliamentary move to call this by-election. not if it was only to then reverse course and eat their words within a day, think N Shropshire |
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Post by Rutlander on Jan 7, 2024 14:04:41 GMT
Today's Tory selection shortlist reported by local journalist
(includes my former physiotherapist)
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Post by Rutlander on Jan 7, 2024 14:27:59 GMT
The local candidate (and Bone's current partner), Helen Harrison, is expected to be chosen. This is what Bone was reported as wanting/demanding and removes the possibility of Bone standing in the by-election against the Conservative candidate.
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Post by Rutlander on Jan 7, 2024 14:30:52 GMT
And Harrison has been chosen (surprise!)
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 7, 2024 15:24:10 GMT
The local candidate (and Bone's current partner), Helen Harrison, is expected to be chosen. This is what Bone was reported as wanting/demanding and removes the possibility of Bone standing in the by-election against the Conservative candidate. What webs are woven.... |
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Post by right on Jan 7, 2024 16:43:55 GMT
Choosing Bone's girlfriend seems crazy, even to appease Bone (they'd have a ready made excuse for losing it he stood). Is Bone particularly popular in his Association?
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Post by graham on Jan 7, 2024 16:54:00 GMT
'Vote for Peter Bone's mistress - his latest bit on the side!'. I am not sure this will go down well with certain older Tory voters.
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Post by ricmk on Jan 7, 2024 17:48:31 GMT
Let's see how the campaign goes but this looks like an oven-ready contender for the "Worst by-election candidates" thread. Removes the risk of Bone standing against the Tories but will entangle the Tory campaign with bullying and sexual misconduct. Lots of tricky questions - will Bone have a job? Do you agree with report? Right to suspend? Easy to see how the Tory campaign collapses under the weight of that scrutiny if they haven't got the answers sorted.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 7, 2024 17:50:14 GMT
I cannot imagine that this decision will go down well with many of the local association women - even if Cllr Jenny Bone professes official support, it will seem like a bizarre slap in the face. Mr Bone was in part punished for a sexual misdemeanor, whilst still married to "Mrs Bone", so an act of unfaithfulness. Which bright spark thinks - "I know, lets double down by choosing the woman many people (probably unfairly) believe he was being unfaithful with whilst still married." Also, it suggests that the Tory Party think that their standard-bearer should be somebody who totally disbelieves the judgment of the House of Commons when they voted to accept the recommendation to suspend Peter Bone, thus leading to his recall.
I tell you what, I kind of admire Miss Harrison, she has some brass neck on her to put herself forward as a candidate - I suspect that she will have a protective posse around her and that she will knock at pre-vetted front doors.
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Post by maxque on Jan 7, 2024 17:58:13 GMT
I think this is an admission of defeat by the Conservative Party, this is merely to keep the local party from descending in infighting.
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Post by Wisconsin on Jan 7, 2024 18:31:17 GMT
Who selected the candidate?
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Post by Rutlander on Jan 7, 2024 18:35:22 GMT
Who selected the candidate? "around 50 local association Conservatives" (inc. Pursglove but not Mrs Bone) |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 7, 2024 18:47:40 GMT
Lordy, if she was a candidate where my sisters' lived, she wouldn't get the ringing out of her ears for months.
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Post by evergreenadam on Jan 7, 2024 18:58:49 GMT
Who selected the candidate? "around 50 local association Conservatives" (inc. Pursglove but not Mrs Bone) Apparently the selected candidate won with about 70% of the vote. Who is Pursglove? |
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Post by Wisconsin on Jan 7, 2024 19:05:36 GMT
"around 50 local association Conservatives" (inc. Pursglove but not Mrs Bone) Apparently the selected candidate won with about 70% of the vote. Who is Pursglove? The MP for neighbouring Corby, Tom Pursglove. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 7, 2024 19:10:31 GMT
It's interesting how many of our so-called "progressive" members seem to think a woman should be punished for the misdemeanours of her partner.
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Post by maxque on Jan 7, 2024 19:24:15 GMT
It's interesting how many of our so-called "progressive" members seem to think a woman should be punished for the misdemeanours of her partner. Considering the only reason why she has been chosen is the identity of her partner... |
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