There are quite a few people who have no wish to vote for an adulterer - indeed some would withhold support from candidates who are known to be cohabiting - aka 'living in sin.'
I suspect that many would recoil from being represented by an adulterer - male or female. Far fewer would now be bothered by a cohabiting candidate - though I do personally know of people who would refuse to support candidates who had kids out of wedlock.
How likely is it that Peter Bone will actually stand as an Independent?
Only once has a recalled MP stood in the by election caused by their recall since recall petitions became possible in 2015-and the MP in question, Chris Davies, lost badly and his subsequent attempts to return to Parliament were thwarted.
How likely is it that Peter Bone will actually stand as an Independent?
Only once has a recalled MP stood in the by election caused by their recall since recall petitions became possible in 2015-and the MP in question, Chris Davies, lost badly and his subsequent attempts to return to Parliament were thwarted.
How likely is it that Peter Bone will actually stand as an Independent?
Only once has a recalled MP stood in the by election caused by their recall since recall petitions became possible in 2015-and the MP in question, Chris Davies, lost badly and his subsequent attempts to return to Parliament were thwarted.
Was Chris Davies result particularly bad? It seems like the sort of seat where the Lds would have fancied their chances anyway, even in a normal by election.
How likely is it that Peter Bone will actually stand as an Independent?
Only once has a recalled MP stood in the by election caused by their recall since recall petitions became possible in 2015-and the MP in question, Chris Davies, lost badly and his subsequent attempts to return to Parliament were thwarted.
From what he has said so far, he’s angry, and he says he’s innocent, and he makes the point that far more people voted him in than voted him out. So I reckon he will.
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How likely is it that Peter Bone will actually stand as an Independent?
Only once has a recalled MP stood in the by election caused by their recall since recall petitions became possible in 2015-and the MP in question, Chris Davies, lost badly and his subsequent attempts to return to Parliament were thwarted.
Was Chris Davies result particularly bad? It seems like the sort of seat where the Lds would have fancied their chances anyway, even in a normal by election.
I thought it was pretty good. From my (admittedly limited) canvassing in the constituency, I'd guess that he did better than a new candidate would have done.
How likely is it that Peter Bone will actually stand as an Independent?
Only once has a recalled MP stood in the by election caused by their recall since recall petitions became possible in 2015-and the MP in question, Chris Davies, lost badly and his subsequent attempts to return to Parliament were thwarted.
My sneaking suspicion is that he'll stand for Reform on the ticket of "I'll amend or abolish Recall because there's a limit to how much power I want voters to have". He won't win.
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There are quite a few people who have no wish to vote for an adulterer - indeed some would withhold support from candidates who are known to be cohabiting - aka 'living in sin.'
I suspect that many would recoil from being represented by an adulterer - male or female. Far fewer would now be bothered by a cohabiting candidate - though I do personally know of people who would refuse to support candidates who had kids out of wedlock.
Before he became Labour leader wasn't Ed Milliband "living in sin", and even - horror!!!! - had children with his Jezebel!
I don't care how you live your life, I don't care what's in your head, I don't care what you do in your bedroom. I don't care doesn't mean I hate you, it just means I. Don't. Care.
I suspect that many would recoil from being represented by an adulterer - male or female. Far fewer would now be bothered by a cohabiting candidate - though I do personally know of people who would refuse to support candidates who had kids out of wedlock.
Before he became Labour leader wasn't Ed Milliband "living in sin", and even - horror!!!! - had children with his Jezebel!
Indeed so - and I suspect it was one reason why he made the decision to get married. I know we have subsequently seen it with Johnson but I believe that quite a few people were not comfortable with the prospect of a PM 'shacked up' at No 10. Just imagine if Theresa May or Thatcher had done that!
Before he became Labour leader wasn't Ed Milliband "living in sin", and even - horror!!!! - had children with his Jezebel!
Indeed so - and I suspect it was one reason why he made the decision to get married. I know we have subsequently seen it with Johnson but I believe that quite a few people were not comfortable with the prospect of a PM 'shacked up' at No 10. Just imagine if Theresa May or Thatcher had done that!
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There are quite a few people who have no wish to vote for an adulterer - indeed some would withhold support from candidates who are known to be cohabiting - aka 'living in sin.'
I suspect that many would recoil from being represented by an adulterer - male or female. Far fewer would now be bothered by a cohabiting candidate - though I do personally know of people who would refuse to support candidates who had kids out of wedlock.
I'm not convinced that a large number are militantly censorious of adultery in itself, after all many of them or those they know will not be "without sin" in this regard.
What has really got up people's noses, and continues to do so, is hypocrisy - preaching morality in public but not observing it in private.
This was what made the "Back To Basics" fallout so devastating for the Tories three decades ago.
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I suspect that many would recoil from being represented by an adulterer - male or female. Far fewer would now be bothered by a cohabiting candidate - though I do personally know of people who would refuse to support candidates who had kids out of wedlock.
I'm not convinced that a large number are militantly censorious of adultery in itself, after all many of them or those they know will not be "without sin" in this regard.
What has really got up people's noses, and continues to do so, is hypocrisy - preaching morality in public but not observing it in private.
This was what made the "Back To Basics" fallout so devastating for the Tories three decades ago.
Iris Robinson is but one example (there are plenty of others) of a person who militantly opposed adultery while practising it themselves
I suspect that many would recoil from being represented by an adulterer - male or female. Far fewer would now be bothered by a cohabiting candidate - though I do personally know of people who would refuse to support candidates who had kids out of wedlock.
I'm not convinced that a large number are militantly censorious of adultery in itself, after all many of them or those they know will not be "without sin" in this regard.
What has really got up people's noses, and continues to do so, is hypocrisy - preaching morality in public but not observing it in private.
This was what made the "Back To Basics" fallout so devastating for the Tories three decades ago.
Hypocrisy certainly adds to the sense of outrage as highlighted by 'Back to Basics' but many still find the act of adultery to be morally unacceptable - the Cecil Parkinson- Sarah Keays affair comes to mind.
I'm not convinced that a large number are militantly censorious of adultery in itself, after all many of them or those they know will not be "without sin" in this regard.
What has really got up people's noses, and continues to do so, is hypocrisy - preaching morality in public but not observing it in private.
This was what made the "Back To Basics" fallout so devastating for the Tories three decades ago.
Hypocrisy certainly adds to the sense of outrage as highlighted by 'Back to Basics' but many still find the act of adultery to be morally unacceptable - the Cecil Parkinson- Sarah Keays affair comes to mind.
The scandal in that was that he reneged on his commitment to marry her and was secretive about it.
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That was 40 years ago, and again the secrecy and deception surrounding the event arguably counted for at least as much as the act itself.
I am not persuaded that adultery is more accepted today than was the case 40 years ago.Moreover, surely most adultery is carried out in secret!
On a different point -having kids 'out of wedlock' - I recall this featuring in the June 1987 election campaign via two separate episodes. Firstly Ken Livingstone was standing for Labour in Brent East , and his Tory opponent was referred to in the media as 'an unmarried mother to be'.
The second incident related to Labour's attack on Private Healthcare as promoted by the Tories. Labour ran with this issue for a few days, and it then emerged that Denis Healey's wife - Edna Healey - had used private medical insurance for a hip operation. This sparked Tory and media charges of hypocrisy. Quite late in the campaign Denis was interviewed on Breakfast TV by Anne Diamond who needled him by questioning re- Edna's private Healthcare. Diamond was pregnant but unmarried. Eventually Healey snapped back at her 'When is the baby due , Anne?' He clearly thought there was sufficient mileage in the issue to cause her embarrassment - and he was probably correct.
I suspect that many would recoil from being represented by an adulterer - male or female. Far fewer would now be bothered by a cohabiting candidate - though I do personally know of people who would refuse to support candidates who had kids out of wedlock.
I'm not convinced that a large number are militantly censorious of adultery in itself, after all many of them or those they know will not be "without sin" in this regard.
What has really got up people's noses, and continues to do so, is hypocrisy - preaching morality in public but not observing it in private.
This was what made the "Back To Basics" fallout so devastating for the Tories three decades ago.
The “Back to Basics” campaign was bad because itmwas interpreted by different people to mean different things. John Major launched it as being basic Conservative and capitalist principles and responsibility, but other people (and the media) jumped on the bandwagon by saying that it was about personal sexual morality and homophobia as well.
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My impression even at the time was that didn't do Healey any favours, and indeed spoiled some of the sympathy he undoubtedly had after typical Tory press muck raking.
It would probably go down even less well today.
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It is certainly true that ten years later during the 1997 campaign when the outgoing Tory MP for Welwyn & Hatfield - David Evans - referred to his female Labour opponent as having three bastards, he faced strong criticism - including from his own side. Perhaps that was due to his use of the 'B' word.
I suspect that many would recoil from being represented by an adulterer - male or female. Far fewer would now be bothered by a cohabiting candidate - though I do personally know of people who would refuse to support candidates who had kids out of wedlock.
I'm not convinced that a large number are militantly censorious of adultery in itself, after all many of them or those they know will not be "without sin" in this regard.
What has really got up people's noses, and continues to do so, is hypocrisy - preaching morality in public but not observing it in private.
This was what made the "Back To Basics" fallout so devastating for the Tories three decades ago.
Indeed, it's damn near mandatory if you want to stand for election in France, for example
