cibwr
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Sark
Sept 8, 2023 14:28:16 GMT
Post by cibwr on Sept 8, 2023 14:28:16 GMT
Thanks John, where did you find the results?
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Post by johnloony on Sept 8, 2023 14:47:58 GMT
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right
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Sark
Sept 18, 2023 15:53:13 GMT
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Post by right on Sept 18, 2023 15:53:13 GMT
My memory is that this was the result of a stand off between the Barclays and the rest of the population. So the Barclays put up 28 of their retainers and employees, with the idea effectively of creating an independent state run by them. And those independent of the Barclays put up 28 residents to oppose them. When the Barclays lost, they closed down their local businesses in a huff, and there was quite a fuss about it Imagine Sark as an independent state, properly and fully, not just in the sense described. Would it be a sort-of feudal Empire, with Barclay as the supreme Dictator-in-Perpetuity (like Kim il-Sung)? Or it could pretend to be a pretend micronation, with coups and revolutions (like Austenasia) just for fun. They actually got rid of feudalism, the last place in Europe that it went I rather hated the Barclays after that |
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right
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Post by right on Sept 18, 2023 15:55:06 GMT
A country voting overwhelmingly to abolish its own polity, like Sikkim Isn't it the only jurisdiction to vote itself out of feudal rule? I think it was as a result of an ECHR decision from a case brought by the Barclays about inheritance It was a court decision and the Barclays got what they wanted Edit: Sorry I thought you were taking about Sark not Sikkim |
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Sark
Sept 18, 2023 16:20:18 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 18, 2023 16:20:18 GMT
Isn't it the only jurisdiction to vote itself out of feudal rule? I think it was as a result of an ECHR decision from a case brought by the Barclays about inheritance It was a court decision and the Barclays got what they wanted Edit: Sorry I thought you were taking about Sark not Sikkim I don't think I remember which one I meant! |
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Sark
Sept 18, 2023 16:24:53 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 18, 2023 16:24:53 GMT
In the first Sark election there were 57 candidates for 28 seats. Clearly the initial excitement of democracy has worn off! My memory is that this was the result of a stand off between the Barclays and the rest of the population. So the Barclays put up 28 of their retainers and employees, with the idea effectively of creating an independent state run by them. And those independent of the Barclays put up 28 residents to oppose them. When the Barclays lost, they closed down their local businesses in a huff, and there was quite a fuss about it And in a definitely unrelated move (more power to the Sarkees' elbows, for mine): www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-66820635And possibly more interesting for the long-term future of the island: guernseypress.com/news/2023/09/18/quarter-of-sarks-population-arrived-in-last-three-years/ |
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Sark
Sept 18, 2023 16:33:49 GMT
Post by yellowperil on Sept 18, 2023 16:33:49 GMT
My memory is that this was the result of a stand off between the Barclays and the rest of the population. So the Barclays put up 28 of their retainers and employees, with the idea effectively of creating an independent state run by them. And those independent of the Barclays put up 28 residents to oppose them. When the Barclays lost, they closed down their local businesses in a huff, and there was quite a fuss about it And in a definitely unrelated move (more power to the Sarkees' elbows, for mine): www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-66820635And possibly more interesting for the long-term future of the island: guernseypress.com/news/2023/09/18/quarter-of-sarks-population-arrived-in-last-three-years/Send'em all to Rwanda. |
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right
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Post by right on Sept 18, 2023 16:35:46 GMT
I think it was as a result of an ECHR decision from a case brought by the Barclays about inheritance It was a court decision and the Barclays got what they wanted Edit: Sorry I thought you were taking about Sark not Sikkim I don't think I remember which one I meant! Sikkim voted to end the Buddhist aristocracy and incorporate into India in the 1970s by an overwhelming margin. The Indian army had let themselves in previously which tends to influence these results. |
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