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Post by finsobruce on Aug 16, 2023 15:44:27 GMT
Hmmmm, historically that may have been quite true. But isn't one lasting legacy of Thatcher making the party significantly more ideological? A portion of it. But only one portion from a family sized party. Would you like free market fries with that? |
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 16, 2023 15:58:07 GMT
The problem with comparisons to 1970 is that the polls did not turn in the runup to an election held at the end of the Parliament's term, but the election was called almost as soon as they did, on the basis that things had been so bad that it would be folly to waste an opportunity to avert disaster. The Conservatives were well ahead as late as February.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 16, 2023 16:24:26 GMT
The problem with comparisons to 1970 is that the polls did not turn in the runup to an election held at the end of the Parliament's term, but the election was called almost as soon as they did, on the basis that things had been so bad that it would be folly to waste an opportunity to avert disaster. The Conservatives were well ahead as late as February. There was a mini rerun of that in Feb 74 when the Tories retook the lead late in the parliament(albeit Labour hadn't been as far ahead as the Tories were in 1966-1970). |
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Post by afleitch on Aug 16, 2023 16:38:53 GMT
The problem with comparisons to 1970 is that the polls did not turn in the runup to an election held at the end of the Parliament's term, but the election was called almost as soon as they did, on the basis that things had been so bad that it would be folly to waste an opportunity to avert disaster. The Conservatives were well ahead as late as February. 1970 was also an unexpectedly low turnout election with bigger than expected gaps in registration for 18-21 year olds. There was a polling miss, combined with a late swing. Pollsters were also giving Labour bigger (often way bigger) leads the week before the election than in previous weeks. Which is where the whole 'England knocked out of the World Cup affected the polling' legend comes from. Some corrected with late polling, but others weren't in the field. In terms of miss, good pollsters v bad and methodology, it's probably more analogous to 2017 than any election since. |
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