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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 18, 2023 20:24:07 GMT
How would the votes stack up, marginal?
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Post by lackeroftalent on Jan 26, 2024 22:57:07 GMT
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Post by lackeroftalent on Feb 10, 2024 14:43:46 GMT
Frank Adlington-Stringer has won the Green Party selection (North East Derbyshire councillor).
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Post by lackeroftalent on Mar 3, 2024 16:48:27 GMT
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 4, 2024 8:39:14 GMT
Not "Elnaugh-Love" this time, then?
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Post by lackeroftalent on Apr 5, 2024 15:56:08 GMT
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Post by YL on Apr 5, 2024 16:05:02 GMT
So no Elnaugh after all.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Apr 5, 2024 23:25:09 GMT
A shame, I was considering voting for her.
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Post by borisminor on Apr 16, 2024 14:33:20 GMT
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Post by cogload on Apr 16, 2024 15:14:13 GMT
Ben 3 jobs
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Post by bsjmcr on Apr 17, 2024 7:53:04 GMT
You have got to be joking. Look at how large Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire are combined! Mad that this are will border with Greater Manchester. Another person for Andy to take pictures with. I wonder why Leicester wasn’t included too, as it’s often regarded as the remaining key city in the East Midlands (sorry Lincoln and Northampton, even if you’re not a city). And yes it feels a bit odd for all the rural northern hinterland to be included in a ‘metro mayor’ area but then again we will have York and North Yorks too. I blame it on the fact that the cities of Derby and Nottingham are sub-optimally right down at the south of their respective counties and not the middle like they should be, a la Leicester or Oxford (post-74!). I guess a more ‘metropolitan’ focussed mayoral area/CA ‘along the A52’ focussing on say Derby, Erewash, S Derbyshire, potentially Amber Valley, and Nottingham, Broxtowe, Gedling, Rushcliffe and Ashfield, would just cause conflict over the exact boundaries themselves.
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Post by cogload on Apr 17, 2024 9:45:21 GMT
The mad scramble to try and secure some work for Litchurch Lane would be funny if it wasn't so serious. Is there an election on?
N.b the government is in charge of rolling stock procurement and allocation.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Apr 18, 2024 17:14:31 GMT
You have got to be joking. Look at how large Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire are combined! Mad that this are will border with Greater Manchester. Another person for Andy to take pictures with. I wonder why Leicester wasn’t included too, as it’s often regarded as the remaining key city in the East Midlands (sorry Lincoln and Northampton, even if you’re not a city). And yes it feels a bit odd for all the rural northern hinterland to be included in a ‘metro mayor’ area but then again we will have York and North Yorks too. I blame it on the fact that the cities of Derby and Nottingham are sub-optimally right down at the south of their respective counties and not the middle like they should be, a la Leicester or Oxford (post-74!). I guess a more ‘metropolitan’ focussed mayoral area/CA ‘along the A52’ focussing on say Derby, Erewash, S Derbyshire, potentially Amber Valley, and Nottingham, Broxtowe, Gedling, Rushcliffe and Ashfield, would just cause conflict over the exact boundaries themselves. Given that the role primarily relates to transport and economic development a core East Midlands authority based on Nottingham, Derby, Leicester and their hinterlands would have made sense. Including Glossop, Chesterfield, Retford, etc in such an authority is utter madness.
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Post by john07 on Apr 18, 2024 18:31:24 GMT
Mad that this are will border with Greater Manchester. Another person for Andy to take pictures with. I wonder why Leicester wasn’t included too, as it’s often regarded as the remaining key city in the East Midlands (sorry Lincoln and Northampton, even if you’re not a city). And yes it feels a bit odd for all the rural northern hinterland to be included in a ‘metro mayor’ area but then again we will have York and North Yorks too. I blame it on the fact that the cities of Derby and Nottingham are sub-optimally right down at the south of their respective counties and not the middle like they should be, a la Leicester or Oxford (post-74!). I guess a more ‘metropolitan’ focussed mayoral area/CA ‘along the A52’ focussing on say Derby, Erewash, S Derbyshire, potentially Amber Valley, and Nottingham, Broxtowe, Gedling, Rushcliffe and Ashfield, would just cause conflict over the exact boundaries themselves. Given that the role primarily relates to transport and economic development a core East Midlands authority based on Nottingham, Derby, Leicester and their hinterlands would have made sense. Including Glossop, Chesterfield, Retford, etc in such an authority is utter madness. The old County boundaries do not provide the best way to define economic zones. Glossop certainly is functionally part of the Greater Manchester conurbation along with the likes of New Mills. Dronfield would be a better fit for Yorkshire. Excluding Leicester from the East Midlands looks borderline insane.
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Post by bsjmcr on Apr 18, 2024 21:34:42 GMT
According to boundary assistant, so electorate rather than population:
East Midlands 'Three Cities' (sorry Lincoln) CA: 1,766,899
Derbyshire: Derby, Erewash, Amber Valley, South Derbyshire (incidentally this seems to work well in that all the remaining Derbyshire districts except High Peak are 'non-constituent partners' of South Yorkshire / Sheffield City Region.) Nottinghamshire: Nottingham, Broxtowe, Gedling, Rushcliffe, Ashfield. Could add Mansfield/Newark&Sherwood, but by then it feels a bit too geographically large and distant from Nottingham (but 'Sherwood' has inextricable Nottingham links for obvious reasons). This would increase the electorate to 1,933,334, and this would reflect Derbyshire as Bassetlaw is a 'non-constituent partner' of South Yorkshire / Sheffield City Region Leicestershire: the entire county (and not Rutland, which I have a feeling would protest most vocally at being included in such a thing). The whole county because of the as said, optimal location of Leicester which means that each of its surrounding districts inevitably leans to Leicester, but if you wanted to concentrate it, there could be a case for excluding Harborough/Melton, as there is a lot of hinterland between the towns themselves and Leicester.
Then again, nothing is 'too large' when you look at York/North Yorkshire...
East Midlands 'Twin Cities'/A52 Corridor CA: 818,747 Nottingham, Broxtowe, Gedling, Rushcliffe Derby, Erewash, South Derbyshire
Not having Ashfield means Hucknall is an odd chunk taken out, an inextricable Nottingham suburb excluded... but when you add Ashfield you have to add A.Valley, then what about Mansfield, then where do you draw the line? Plus NW Leicestershire takes a bite out of the bottom border, and once you add that, really where would you draw the line as you'd end up with the Three Cities scenario before long.
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Post by bsjmcr on Apr 18, 2024 21:40:39 GMT
Given that the role primarily relates to transport and economic development a core East Midlands authority based on Nottingham, Derby, Leicester and their hinterlands would have made sense. Including Glossop, Chesterfield, Retford, etc in such an authority is utter madness. The old County boundaries do not provide the best way to define economic zones. Glossop certainly is functionally part of the Greater Manchester conurbation along with the likes of New Mills. Dronfield would be a better fit for Yorkshire. Excluding Leicester from the East Midlands looks borderline insane. High Peak doesn't have council elections this year, I wonder how low turnout / how high protest votes might be in High Peak for the mayoral election. Of course being the bellwether Labour should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a severe lack of enthusiasm from what is a traditionally high turnout area. I know BBC TV regions have their own sometimes ludicrous boundaries, but even Buxton, never mind Glossop, is part of the North West region. So they probably won't even get any news about the EMCA and will probably see more of Burnham day-to-day than any EMCA Mayor!
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Post by john07 on Apr 18, 2024 22:16:42 GMT
The old County boundaries do not provide the best way to define economic zones. Glossop certainly is functionally part of the Greater Manchester conurbation along with the likes of New Mills. Dronfield would be a better fit for Yorkshire. Excluding Leicester from the East Midlands looks borderline insane. High Peak doesn't have council elections this year, I wonder how low turnout / how high protest votes might be in High Peak for the mayoral election. Of course being the bellwether Labour should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a severe lack of enthusiasm from what is a traditionally high turnout area. I know BBC TV regions have their own sometimes ludicrous boundaries, but even Buxton, never mind Glossop, is part of the North West region. So they probably won't even get any news about the EMCA and will probably see more of Burnham day-to-day than any EMCA Mayor! Most of these issues can be traced back to the trashing of the Redcliffe Maud Report and cutting back the new Metropolitan areas to retain more of the shire areas. It took decades to sort the mess out and it is still not complete.
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Post by hullenedge on Apr 28, 2024 7:51:30 GMT
More in Common poll:-
Lab 41 Con 28 Ref 14 Green 9 Ind 4 LD 4
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 28, 2024 10:30:55 GMT
I will be very pleased for Claire if she wins
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Post by matureleft on Apr 28, 2024 10:54:56 GMT
I will be very pleased for Claire if she wins It’ll be a struggle to give meaning to the role in the way some (but not all) of the earlier mayors have managed. It’s presumably essentially a mechanism to get some devolved money and the post holder could easily become a cypher.
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