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Post by BossMan on Aug 9, 2023 18:26:21 GMT
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Post by carolus on Sept 25, 2023 11:15:30 GMT
Current council: 23 Con, 14 Lab, 11 Peterborough First, 8 LD, 3 Green, 1 Ind Up in 2024: 14 Con, 4 Peterborough First, 2 Lab, 1 LD, 1 Green.
The Peterborough First in Glinton & Castor (2024, 2027), Hargate & Hempsted (2026, 2027), Stanground South (2024, 2026, 2027), Wittering (2024), were elected as Conservative. The Ind in Orton Waterville (2026) was elected as Green.
Split wards (results given from 2023). Bretton - 2 Con, 1 Lab. Con defend. Lab gain from Con by 4.1%. Dogsthorpe - 2 Lab, 1 Con. Con defend. Lab hold over Con by 14.1%. East - 2 Lab, 1 Con. Con defend. Lab hold over Con by 38.6%. Fletton & Stanground - 2 LD, 1 Con. Con defend. LD hold over Con by 24.4%. Fletton & Woodston - 2 Lab, 1 Con. Con defend. Lab hold over Con by 0.6%. Gunthorpe - 2 LD, 1 Con. Con defend. LD hold over Con by 13.4%. Hampton Vale - 2 Con, 1 LD. Con defend. LD hold over Con by 12.7%. Orton Longueville - 2 Con, 1 Green. Con defend. Green gain from Lab by 15.6% over Con. Park - 2 Con, 1 Lab. Con defend. 2x Con gain from Lab. C 1660*/1148*, L 1024/1003, G 529/341, LD 197, Reform UK 80.
Close wards (results given from 2023). Hargate & Hempsted - Con hold over Lab by 9.5%. North - Lab hold over Ind by 8.6%.
Barnack, and Wittering are single member wards which last elected in 2021.
2023 Candidate totals (-1): 21 Con, 21 Lab, 19 Green, 17 LD, 1 Peterborough First, 1 TUSC, 1 Reform UK, 1 CPA, 3 Ind, 1 No Description. 2021 Candidate totals (+1): 23 Con, 23 Lab, 23 LD, 17 Green, 3 Freedom Alliance, 3 UKIP, 1 CPA, 1 For Britain, 1 Werrington First, 4 Ind
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 18, 2023 19:48:10 GMT
Currently the council is run by a Tory minority administration. Looks like they're going to get no-confidenced at the next council meeting:
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 18, 2023 20:42:55 GMT
The motion's signed by Peterborough First (11 councillors), Labour (14 councillors), Liberal Democrats (8 councillors), and Green Party (3 councillors) so looks like it'll get carried by 36-23 (or 37-23 if the ex-Green Independent backs it).I presume they would only have put the motion together if they had already agreed the shape of a new rainbow coalition administration.
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Post by Rutlander on Nov 2, 2023 9:01:01 GMT
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Post by Rutlander on Nov 2, 2023 9:31:48 GMT
Confusingly, the Council page for 'Councillors by Party' has a LAB & COOP group (12) and, separately, a LAB group (2).
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Post by andrewp on Nov 2, 2023 9:32:25 GMT
Its not very often that the 3rd largest party forms the council leadership.
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Post by carolus on Nov 2, 2023 9:44:54 GMT
Its not very often that the 3rd largest party forms the council leadership. There are a couple currently in Scotland - Edinburgh and Stirling are Laboue minorities from third. Not sure whether there are others in England.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Nov 2, 2023 11:30:47 GMT
Confusingly, the Council page for 'Councillors by Party' has a LAB & COOP group (12) and, separately, a LAB group (2). Local council websites often use software which doesn't recognise ballot paper descriptions, so each one is collated separately.
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 2, 2023 11:49:29 GMT
Confusingly, the Council page for 'Councillors by Party' has a LAB & COOP group (12) and, separately, a LAB group (2). There are a lot of councils that do that... it is one of the many frustrations I have doing the by-election threads...
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 2, 2023 11:51:07 GMT
I suspect that the Peterborough First councillors weren't willing to support a Labour-led administration, whilst Labour are probably quite happy for Peterborough First to take over the reins and for them and the Tories to attack each other and hope to come through the middle.
The Peterborough First councillors by when they're next up:
Ray Bisby (Stanground South): 2026 Gavin Elsey (Wittering): 2024 Mohammed Farooq (Hargate & Hempsted): 2026 Saqib Farooq (Glinton & Castor): 2024 Judy Fox (Werrington): 2027 John Fox (Werrington): 2024 Chris Harper (Stanground South): 2024 Peter Hiller (Glinton & Castor): 2027 John Howard (Hargate & Hempsted): 2027 Stephen Lane (Werrington): 2026 Brian Rush (Stanground South): 2027
The ones in Werrington are a longstanding localist/independent grouping and look pretty bullet-proof. Glinton & Castor and Wittering have always been very safe Tory seats and it's unlikely anybody else has enough support to come up through the middle.
Hargate & Hempsted and Stanground South both had Labour a few hundred votes off victory in 2023. If Peterborough First and the Tories split the vote evenly and Labour could avoid being squeezed, either might be winnable but those are big ifs. The Lib Dems have also come close in Hargate & Hempsted and may fancy giving it a go. That said, it's the 2021 seats up this time, so Labour need to run offensive seats in a lot of wards that are better prospects for them, plus the usual Peterborough weirdness means that they can't really take anywhere for granted.
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Post by Rutlander on Nov 2, 2023 12:37:34 GMT
All six cabinet members (plus two 'cabinet advisors') are male. (Ten of eleven members of Peterborough First are male)
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Post by ricmk on Nov 2, 2023 13:22:08 GMT
There are bad losers, and then there are Peterborough Tories: "But Mr Fitzgerald has made clear he and his group will not recognise the new administration." Will Peterborough have its January 6th moment, with hordes of unimpressed locals storming the Council Chamber in protest against the undemocratic takeover?
Of course, it sounds like the Tories there have zero political radar, surely with that many defections against them, it should have been obvious that this could happen and that they had to build bridges with opposition groups? Sounds like they naively burned them instead.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 2, 2023 14:18:21 GMT
One thing that's quite striking is how bad the ward boundaries are - very few of the ward boundaries follow natural boundaries, communities are often divided up between three or more wards and lots of wards have a small part that is isolated from the west of the ward. You expect to get one or two cases like that because of how the numbers work out, but the volume here seems unreasonably high.
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Post by maxque on Nov 2, 2023 22:45:08 GMT
Its not very often that the 3rd largest party forms the council leadership. There are a couple currently in Scotland - Edinburgh and Stirling are Laboue minorities from third. Not sure whether there are others in England. Melton is run by third-place Labour (in coalition with the 2nd largest group).
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 12, 2023 9:39:03 GMT
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Post by Rutlander on Dec 12, 2023 11:26:02 GMT
Confusingly, the Council page for 'Councillors by Party' has a LAB & COOP group (12) and, separately, a LAB group (2). Local council websites often use software which doesn't recognise ballot paper descriptions, so each one is collated separately. But party or ballot paper description is of little or no relevance. The key thing is what political groups are recognised. My council (Rutland) website has separate pages for councillors by political party and by political grouping (the sole Green is in a Group with the LibDems) which is helpful. In P'boro the only option is 'by political party' but is actually by group (if you ignore the supposed two Lab groups). The latest CON defector is shown as IND (with one other), not 'Peterborough First'.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Dec 12, 2023 17:26:50 GMT
Local council websites often use software which doesn't recognise ballot paper descriptions, so each one is collated separately. But party or ballot paper description is of little or no relevance. The key thing is what political groups are recognised. My council (Rutland) website has separate pages for councillors by political party and by political grouping (the sole Green is in a Group with the LibDems) which is helpful. In P'boro the only option is 'by political party' but is actually by group (if you ignore the supposed two Lab groups). The latest CON defector is shown as IND (with one other), not 'Peterborough First'. Ah, well, the other factor is that local government websites are not governed by an ombudsman checking on correct and accurate information. They get a description from the Councillor involved and run with it. Now maybe someone in IT thinks "ah might as well put them under Independent". Who knows.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 11, 2024 12:25:13 GMT
Paul Bristow's wife is standing in the independent stronghold of Werrington, on a single issue NIMBY campaign.
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Post by yellowbelly on Apr 5, 2024 18:37:46 GMT
22 Wards with a double election in Werrington
Con - 23 Lab - 22 - Missing: 1/2 Werrington Green - 22 - Missing: Wittering Lib Dem - 18 - Missing: Eye, Thorney and Newborough, Orton Waterville, Stanground South, 1/2 Werrington, Wittering. Peterborough First - 8 - Eye, Thorney and Newborough, Glinton and Castor, Hampton Vale, Hargate and Hempsted, Stanground South, 2/2 Werrington, Wittering Ind - 6 - Barnack, East, Orton Longueville, Orton Waterville, Park, West TUSC - 3 - Central, Fletton and Woodston, North Reform - 1 - Park Workers - 1 - Dogsthorpe
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