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Post by phil156 on Aug 4, 2023 0:34:23 GMT
How is it going ? Recount ? LDs won by 300 votes Let us have the full result please as soon as you have it |
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Post by phil156 on Aug 4, 2023 0:37:53 GMT
A very good night for the Liberal Democrats I await the percentages with interest - well done
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Post by mattb on Aug 4, 2023 0:44:17 GMT
From ALDC:
Congratulations to Brett Wright on a fantastic GAIN from the Conservatives in Eastbourne Meads ward, putting East Sussex County Council into no overall control, an incredible result for the party. #Winninghere
Lib Dem 1649
Con 1361
Labour 157
Green 127
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 4, 2023 4:26:58 GMT
It's disappointing that the ALDC of all people don't know the difference between a ward and a division
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 4:27:09 GMT
And now I am Liberal Democrat, destroyer of Tory councils.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 4, 2023 4:29:07 GMT
A very good night for the Liberal Democrats I will reserve judgement until we see if they can win in Robert Walpole's 'backyard' |
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Post by tonyhill on Aug 4, 2023 5:34:52 GMT
An encouraging result for the LibDems in Norcot which, if my memory serves me correctly, used to be held by the Liberals many years ago.
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 4, 2023 6:31:41 GMT
It's disappointing that the ALDC of all people don't know the difference between a ward and a division I have known all sorts of people who should know better get that one wrong, and of course a lot of people (especially Tories I find)use division to mean constituency. Eastbourne is a tricky one as all the borough wards are identical to the county divisions. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 4, 2023 6:40:31 GMT
It's disappointing that the ALDC of all people don't know the difference between a ward and a division I have known all sorts of people who should know better get that one wrong, and of course a lot of people (especially Tories I find)use division to mean constituency. Eastbourne is a tricky one as all the borough wards are identical to the county divisions. It isn't tricky at all. The election was for a councillor for the [Eastbourne] Meads division of East Sussex county council. The fact that the boundaries are the same as for the Eastbourne borough ward of the same name is neither here nor there. In terms of parliamentary constituencies, it certainly used to be the case that these were alternatively known as 'divisions' as in eg. "The Redistribution of Seats Act 1885 (which followed on from the Third Reform Act) abolished the Parliamentary Borough and it gave its name to one of four Divisions of the abolished three-member Parliamentary County of Hertfordshire, and was formally named as the Eastern or Hertford Division of Hertfordshire." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertford_(UK_Parliament_constituency)(obviously only applicable where these were literally a division of a parliamentary borough or county) |
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Post by carolus on Aug 4, 2023 6:47:08 GMT
East Sussex, Meads: LD 50.1% (+10.1) Con 41.3% (-4.3) Lab 4.8% (-1.1) Green 3.9% (-2.2)
(Reform UK 0 (-2.4))
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 6:49:40 GMT
I have known all sorts of people who should know better get that one wrong, and of course a lot of people (especially Tories I find)use division to mean constituency. Eastbourne is a tricky one as all the borough wards are identical to the county divisions. It isn't tricky at all. The election was for a councillor for the [Eastbourne] Meads division of East Sussex county council. The fact that the boundaries are the same as for the Eastbourne borough ward of the same name is neither here nor there. In terms of parliamentary constituencies, it certainly used to be the case that these were alternatively known as 'divisions' as in eg. "The Redistribution of Seats Act 1885 (which followed on from the Third Reform Act) abolished the Parliamentary Borough and it gave its name to one of four Divisions of the abolished three-member Parliamentary County of Hertfordshire, and was formally named as the Eastern or Hertford Division of Hertfordshire." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertford_(UK_Parliament_constituency)(obviously only applicable where these were literally a division of a parliamentary borough or county) Let them have their win lol. Maybe some VUK right-wingers are just salty that the Tories have lost yet another council in Sussex following their Lewes DC wipeout and losing in several other places recently, so are trying to deflect! |
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Post by andrewp on Aug 4, 2023 7:25:43 GMT
You wait 3 months for a Lib Dem local by election gain and then 2 come along at once. First LD gains since 4th May.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 4, 2023 7:45:54 GMT
Any percentages up and down please while we await Meads Dudley, Cradley & Wollescote:
LD 52.2% (+14.3)
Lab 30.5% (-8.2)
Con 14.0% (-4.8)
Green 3.1% (-0.2)
TUSC 0.2% (-0.7)
Reading, Norcot Lab 58.2% (+0.2)
LD 17.5% (+11.4)
Con 13.1% (-4.8)
Green 6.3% (-3.6)
Ind 3.1% (-0.3)
TUSC 1.8% (-0.1)
(Liberal 0 (-2.8))
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Post by Toylyyev on Aug 4, 2023 8:10:43 GMT
It's disappointing that the ALDC of all people don't know the difference between a ward and a division I have known all sorts of people who should know better get that one wrong, and of course a lot of people (especially Tories I find)use division to mean constituency. Eastbourne is a tricky one as all the borough wards are identical to the county divisions. Thanks for explaining what for me has become the second need to know of the day. The first was quite something. |
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Post by Crimson King on Aug 4, 2023 8:19:58 GMT
good job that rule doesn’t apply in parliament.
Was it a quasi-judicial thing eg planning?
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Post by Toylyyev on Aug 4, 2023 8:22:42 GMT
Yes.
PS. The vote did pass 20 to 13 with one abstention.
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Post by iainbhx on Aug 4, 2023 8:26:10 GMT
good job that rule doesn’t apply in parliament. Was it a quasi-judicial thing eg planning? Vote on pausing the local plan. Sounds a bit like an overreaching Monitoring Officer to me. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 4, 2023 8:33:15 GMT
It isn't tricky at all. The election was for a councillor for the [Eastbourne] Meads division of East Sussex county council. The fact that the boundaries are the same as for the Eastbourne borough ward of the same name is neither here nor there. In terms of parliamentary constituencies, it certainly used to be the case that these were alternatively known as 'divisions' as in eg. "The Redistribution of Seats Act 1885 (which followed on from the Third Reform Act) abolished the Parliamentary Borough and it gave its name to one of four Divisions of the abolished three-member Parliamentary County of Hertfordshire, and was formally named as the Eastern or Hertford Division of Hertfordshire." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertford_(UK_Parliament_constituency)(obviously only applicable where these were literally a division of a parliamentary borough or county) Let them have their win lol. Maybe some VUK right-wingers are just salty that the Tories have lost yet another council in Sussex following their Lewes DC wipeout and losing in several other places recently, so are trying to deflect! As usual your comment bears no relationship to the post you purport to be replying to. I couldn't give a fuck who controls East Sussex county council and have no need to deflect anything |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 8:34:34 GMT
Let them have their win lol. Maybe some VUK right-wingers are just salty that the Tories have lost yet another council in Sussex following their Lewes DC wipeout and losing in several other places recently, so are trying to deflect! As usual your comment bears no relationship to the post you purport to be replying to. I couldn't give a fuck who controls East Sussex county council and have no need to deflect anything The nitpicking in your earliest post was OTT, even for you. |
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Post by Crimson King on Aug 4, 2023 8:35:11 GMT
good job that rule doesn’t apply in parliament. Was it a quasi-judicial thing eg planning? Vote on pausing the local plan. Sounds a bit like an overreaching Monitoring Officer to me. Agree, the agenda doesnt suggest they were meeting as a planning committe, just normal council |
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