The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 23, 2024 10:32:43 GMT
Just to be clear, there is no "poll" that "suggests" any such thing.
Doing constituency "projections" from national surveys of one or two thousand people is not just meaningless but, worse than that, misleading.
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Post by hullenedge on Nov 27, 2024 17:32:32 GMT
According to this poll both Reform and Green voters are less happy with their lives (although a touch of caution is appropriate):-
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Post by michaelarden on Nov 27, 2024 17:51:50 GMT
According to this poll both Reform and Green voters are less happy with their lives (although a touch of caution is appropriate):- Could this be a function of age? The Greens are generally younger and there's some evidence of Reform now attracting younger voters too. |
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Post by lackeroftalent on Nov 27, 2024 18:15:46 GMT
According to this poll both Reform and Green voters are less happy with their lives (although a touch of caution is appropriate):- Could this be a function of age? The Greens are generally younger and there's some evidence of Reform now attracting younger voters too. Could also be in part how you interpret the question. Are you thinking about this from a financial perspective (most responders I would imagine) or more the threats that are perceived to come from immigration, societial change or the impact of climate change. I know I would have been negative in my response whilst my own financial situation is pretty similar to my parents. |
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Post by aargauer on Nov 27, 2024 18:19:51 GMT
According to this poll both Reform and Green voters are less happy with their lives (although a touch of caution is appropriate):- Being brutal we attract people who've made good decisions in getting their life in order and the Greens attract the opposite. It's one of the reasons why we are struggling in London - unless you are seriously, seriously high earning - not £100k but £200k +, it makes absolutely no sense to live in middle class bits of London anymore. It's full of kids with piercings on half ok money but burning it on rent and complaining about it. Young tories come but they leave before having kids. |
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Post by andrewp on Nov 27, 2024 18:25:42 GMT
I would answer that question negatively as my immediate reaction would be on a financial basis. My parents bought a house in their 20s which is now worth £500k and for which people who are doing the jobs that they were then now would certainly not be able to get a mortgage for. They had paid off their mortgage by their early 50s. My dad retired when he was 57 and got his full private pension then. He then continued working part time as a consultant for another 7 years. I don’t think I will be able to do many of those things.
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Post by Jack on Nov 27, 2024 20:29:54 GMT
I would answer that question negatively as my immediate reaction would be on a financial basis. My parents bought a house in their 20s which is now worth £500k and for which people who are doing the jobs that they were then now would certainly not be able to get a mortgage for. They had paid of their mortgage by their early 50s. My dad retired when he was 57 and got his full private pension then. He then continued working part time as a consultant for another 7 years. I don’t think I will be able to do many of those things. You just need to cancel the Netflix and stop eating the avocado toast, Andrew. It's easy. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 28, 2024 17:13:16 GMT
I would answer that question negatively as my immediate reaction would be on a financial basis. My parents bought a house in their 20s which is now worth £500k and for which people who are doing the jobs that they were then now would certainly not be able to get a mortgage for. They had paid off their mortgage by their early 50s. My dad retired when he was 57 and got his full private pension then. He then continued working part time as a consultant for another 7 years. I don’t think I will be able to do many of those things. And you might well find out that you don't get a state pension as well. |
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Post by andrewp on Nov 28, 2024 18:20:34 GMT
Westminster Voting Intention:
Con: 30% (+2)
Lab: 27% (+2)
RefUK 18% (-1)
LD : 12% (-1)
Green: 8% (=)
SNP: 2% (-1)
Via @moreincommon_, 26-27 Nov.
Changes w/ 19-21 Nov.
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Post by swanarcadian on Nov 28, 2024 18:44:13 GMT
Westminster Voting Intention: Con: 30% (+2) Lab: 27% (+2) RefUK 18% (-1) LD : 12% (-1) Green: 8% (=) SNP: 2% (-1) Via @moreincommon_, 26-27 Nov. Changes w/ 19-21 Nov. When did the Conservatives last get 30? |
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Post by andrewp on Nov 28, 2024 18:51:59 GMT
Westminster Voting Intention: Con: 30% (+2) Lab: 27% (+2) RefUK 18% (-1) LD : 12% (-1) Green: 8% (=) SNP: 2% (-1) Via @moreincommon_, 26-27 Nov. Changes w/ 19-21 Nov. When did the Conservatives last get 30? October 2023 I think. |
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Post by aargauer on Nov 28, 2024 21:28:19 GMT
I would answer that question negatively as my immediate reaction would be on a financial basis. My parents bought a house in their 20s which is now worth £500k and for which people who are doing the jobs that they were then now would certainly not be able to get a mortgage for. They had paid off their mortgage by their early 50s. My dad retired when he was 57 and got his full private pension then. He then continued working part time as a consultant for another 7 years. I don’t think I will be able to do many of those things. And you might well find out that you don't get a state pension as well. My dad never got to 6 figures even by retirement (2019 at 56), but nevertheless has a million pound house (from 26) and a 7 figure pension after putting 3 kids through private school while working a 9-5 whilst my mum stayed at home. After dropping out of Hull, and then committing the career suicide that is moving to the north-east. I should overtake him, but I've worked a lot harder for it, and haven't made as many dumb decisions. If he messed around like that, he would have had failure to launch as a millennial and been part of generation rent. |
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Post by hullenedge on Dec 6, 2024 10:09:41 GMT
Cons: 28% (-2)
Lab: 26% (-1)
Ref: 21% (+2)
LD: 13% (+1)
Grn: 7% (-1)
SNP: 3% (+1)
29 Nov - 2 Dec.
Changes from 26-27 Nov.
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iang
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Post by iang on Dec 6, 2024 12:58:23 GMT
That's quite a significant set of differences to More in Common
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