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Post by iainbhx on Oct 12, 2022 17:03:36 GMT
They used to be within Warwickshire county council, put 'em back in along with Coventry and the Meriden corridor. Wasn't Dudley in Worcestershire? Absolutely none of Dudley or Sandwell was in Warwickshire, it was Staffs or Worcs, unless we go back a bit further and talk about the bits of Warley and Halesowen that used to be in Shropshire. However, Slutton was in Warwickshire. |
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 12, 2022 17:04:44 GMT
I‘m imagining how this would work in Sandwell and Dudley and laughing. I‘m also wondering who Sutton would choose to escape Birmingham (and if anyone would have them). Those not quite Sutton places: Streetly, Little Aston, Shenstone. If anything, Sutton Coldfield makes more sense than Solihull. Sutton with Lichfield makes some sense apart from it being Historically Warks and Staffs. |
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 12, 2022 17:05:34 GMT
I‘m imagining how this would work in Sandwell and Dudley and laughing. I‘m also wondering who Sutton would choose to escape Birmingham (and if anyone would have them). Could do what they do in Australia and have lots of different council areas covering each city. P erhaps a City of North Birmingham for Sutton Coldfield and Birmingham Erdington? I feel groups of people with flaming torches and pitchforks in your future. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 12, 2022 17:20:17 GMT
Those not quite Sutton places: Streetly, Little Aston, Shenstone. If anything, Sutton Coldfield makes more sense than Solihull. Sutton with Lichfield makes some sense apart from it being Historically Warks and Staffs. I do wonder what planet those mediaeval people were on when they put Sutton in Warwickshire. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 12, 2022 19:22:56 GMT
Sutton with Lichfield makes some sense apart from it being Historically Warks and Staffs. I do wonder what planet those mediaeval people were on when they put Sutton in Warwickshire. The original county boundaries in that bit of the world were probably designed to split up the core of Mercia, so the non-functionality of the boundaries was a feature rather than a bug. |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 12, 2022 19:27:17 GMT
I do wonder what planet those mediaeval people were on when they put Sutton in Warwickshire. The original county boundaries in that bit of the world were probably designed to split up the core of Mercia, so the non-functionality of the boundaries was a feature rather than a bug. Just in case anyone tried to move the capital back to Repton. |
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Post by ilerda on Oct 12, 2022 21:00:20 GMT
I do wonder what planet those mediaeval people were on when they put Sutton in Warwickshire. The original county boundaries in that bit of the world were probably designed to split up the core of Mercia, so the non-functionality of the boundaries was a feature rather than a bug. Also Birmingham and the Black Country weren’t really things then, so it was just lines through fields with a few little towns and villages here and there. |
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Post by cibwr on Oct 13, 2022 6:24:02 GMT
I‘m imagining how this would work in Sandwell and Dudley and laughing. I‘m also wondering who Sutton would choose to escape Birmingham (and if anyone would have them). The People's Republic of Wednesbury, Darlaston and Tipton? (A proposed borough promoted by the former Conservative Councillor for Wednesbury - minus the peoples republic bit). |
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Post by cibwr on Oct 13, 2022 6:28:01 GMT
I‘m imagining how this would work in Sandwell and Dudley and laughing. I‘m also wondering who Sutton would choose to escape Birmingham (and if anyone would have them). Could do what they do in Australia and have lots of different council areas covering each city. Perhaps a City of North Birmingham for Sutton Coldfield and Birmingham Erdington? A former Birmingham City Councillor said that a plan was drawn up and discussed (though not very seriously) on how the city (including Sutton) could be carved up into 4 separate boroughs. |
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Post by cibwr on Oct 13, 2022 6:31:53 GMT
The original county boundaries in that bit of the world were probably designed to split up the core of Mercia, so the non-functionality of the boundaries was a feature rather than a bug. Just in case anyone tried to move the capital back to Repton. Tamworth, or when that fell to the Danes - Wednesbury.... I understood that Aethelflaed was responsible and it split up the lands of local lords, cutting across previous local power bases so as to enhance the power of the monarchy. |
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 13, 2022 13:01:08 GMT
I‘m imagining how this would work in Sandwell and Dudley and laughing. I‘m also wondering who Sutton would choose to escape Birmingham (and if anyone would have them). The People's Republic of Wednesbury, Darlaston and Tipton? (A proposed borough promoted by the former Conservative Councillor for Wednesbury - minus the peoples republic bit). Why not throw in Tivvy for good measure. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 13, 2022 16:59:06 GMT
The original county boundaries in that bit of the world were probably designed to split up the core of Mercia, so the non-functionality of the boundaries was a feature rather than a bug. Also Birmingham and the Black Country weren’t really things then, so it was just lines through fields with a few little towns and villages here and there. But the River Tame was still enough of an obstacle to draw a boundary through Tamworth. Really weird that the boundary then deviated from it. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 13, 2022 17:16:17 GMT
The original county boundaries in that bit of the world were probably designed to split up the core of Mercia, so the non-functionality of the boundaries was a feature rather than a bug. Also Birmingham and the Black Country weren’t really things then, so it was just lines through fields with a few little towns and villages here and there. Well-wooded upland region for the most part (all those place-names ending in 'ley'...), not the major population centre it is now. |
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