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Post by finsobruce on Aug 14, 2022 13:47:38 GMT
Biggest problem with Healey is he couldn't 'shovel shit' as Roy Hattersly put it. He told you if he thought you were an idiot. Which rubbed people up the wrong way. Enough people to lose him the leadership and probably would have put voters off too. I had a colleague on Labour group like that. And as a result he ended up doing all the work of certain committees without ever being the chair of one.
Healey wouldn't have had the same problem with the electorate though. Remember how much Prescott's popularity improved when he thumped that guy with the mullet?  |
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 14, 2022 17:29:59 GMT
Biggest problem with Healey is he couldn't 'shovel shit' as Roy Hattersly put it. He told you if he thought you were an idiot. Which rubbed people up the wrong way. Enough people to lose him the leadership and probably would have put voters off too. I had a colleague on Labour group like that. And as a result he ended up doing all the work of certain committees without ever being the chair of one.
Healey wouldn't have had the same problem with the electorate though. Remember how much Prescott's popularity improved when he thumped that guy with the mullet? now there's an alternative history question I'd like to know. Prescott becomes leader. Does he win in 1997 and if as PM the punch still happens does it change anything |
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Post by stb12 on Aug 14, 2022 17:47:36 GMT
I had a colleague on Labour group like that. And as a result he ended up doing all the work of certain committees without ever being the chair of one.
Healey wouldn't have had the same problem with the electorate though. Remember how much Prescott's popularity improved when he thumped that guy with the mullet? now there's an alternative history question I'd like to know. Prescott becomes leader. Does he win in 1997 and if as PM the punch still happens does it change anything Was he ever realistically going to win the leadership under any circumstances? Just seems like he was always too much of a loose cannon to be in that position, Deputy is a different matter |
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 14, 2022 17:55:17 GMT
now there's an alternative history question I'd like to know. Prescott becomes leader. Does he win in 1997 and if as PM the punch still happens does it change anything Was he ever realistically going to win the leadership under any circumstances? Just seems like he was always too much of a loose cannon to be in that position, Deputy is a different matter I was only a year old, still 6 years off my first canvass session. But from what I can gather a lot of members liked Prescott and it was head over heart with people picking Blair because they thought he was the best chance of beating the Tories. |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 14, 2022 18:43:58 GMT
Biggest problem with Healey is he couldn't 'shovel shit' as Roy Hattersly put it. He told you if he thought you were an idiot. Which rubbed people up the wrong way. Enough people to lose him the leadership and probably would have put voters off too. I had a colleague on Labour group like that. And as a result he ended up doing all the work of certain committees without ever being the chair of one.
Healey wouldn't have had the same problem with the electorate though. Remember how much Prescott's popularity improved when he thumped that guy with the mullet? Thumping a man with a mullet should harm noone and indeed should be recognised with an immediate Knighthood |
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Post by john07 on Aug 27, 2022 1:14:40 GMT
Was he ever realistically going to win the leadership under any circumstances? Just seems like he was always too much of a loose cannon to be in that position, Deputy is a different matter I was only a year old, still 6 years off my first canvass session. But from what I can gather a lot of members liked Prescott and it was head over heart with people picking Blair because they thought he was the best chance of beating the Tories. There was never a question as to who would win once Gordon Brown had withdrawn. I quite liked Prescott but there was little chance of him coming anywhere near winning the electoral college in place at the time. In fact Prescott came third in the vote among MPs. Not that that stopped Liz Truss! |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 27, 2022 9:19:06 GMT
Well she didn't come third amongst MPs when it actually mattered, is the point.
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