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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 8, 2021 19:08:08 GMT
Nominations please, with suggestions for their disaggregation to adjacent London Boroughs.
This may have been touched on before elsewhere but would be useful to have one thread with all comments.
Not for small boundary changes between London Boroughs or amendments to Greater London boundary, they deserve a separate thread.
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Post by peterl on Nov 8, 2021 19:23:45 GMT
The City of London is not technically a borough, but as a london local authority I think its close enough. Too small to have its own council and various undemocratic quirks. Would merge with Westminster.
If strictly limited to boroughs, Tower Hamlets for its general disfunctionality. Would split it up piece by piece into as many different adjoining authorities as possible (there seem to be five).
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Post by pl on Nov 8, 2021 19:42:23 GMT
The City of London is not technically a borough, but as a london local authority I think its close enough. Too small to have its own council and various undemocratic quirks. Would merge with Westminster. If strictly limited to boroughs, Tower Hamlets for its general disfunctionality. Would split it up piece by piece into as many different adjoining authorities as possible (there seem to be five). No. Never. You'd only import the dysfunctionality into the other Boroughs. The Inner West London Boroughs could probably be slimmed down in numbers. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Nov 8, 2021 19:56:24 GMT
The City of London is not technically a borough, but as a london local authority I think its close enough. Too small to have its own council and various undemocratic quirks. Would merge with Westminster. If strictly limited to boroughs, Tower Hamlets for its general disfunctionality. Would split it up piece by piece into as many different adjoining authorities as possible (there seem to be five). compromise solution: merge TH into the City of London. Keep the pointlessly bizarre elements of "City" administration (aldermen) but drown out the business vote. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 8, 2021 20:01:13 GMT
I would greatly increase the number, actually. While transferring some functions to the GLA. Typical of British local government, the present boroughs are at once too big and too small.
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Post by bjornhattan on Nov 8, 2021 20:46:01 GMT
Havering. I'd merge it into a greatly enlarged Brentwood district, thus putting Romford and Upminster back where they belong in Essex.
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Post by mondialito on Nov 8, 2021 20:46:17 GMT
Give Havering to Essex, they would be much happier.
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Post by loderingo on Nov 8, 2021 20:49:48 GMT
Nominations please, with suggestions for their disaggregation to adjacent Boroughs. This may have been touched on before elsewhere but would be useful to have one thread with all comments. Only 1? Get rid of Hounslow. Put Chiswick, Isleworth and Brentford with Ealing and the rest with Richmond Also Camden. Put the southern part with Westminster and the northern part with Barnet |
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 8, 2021 20:51:34 GMT
Nominations please, with suggestions for their disaggregation to adjacent Boroughs. This may have been touched on before elsewhere but would be useful to have one thread with all comments. Only 1? Get rid of Hounslow. Put Chiswick, Isleworth and Brentford with Ealing and the rest with Richmond Also Camden. Put the southern part with Westminster and the northern part with Barnet Multiple suggestions are allowed. But must be whole Borough abolition as you suggested. |
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Post by ilerda on Nov 8, 2021 20:58:52 GMT
Abolish all of them and merge them into 10 larger strategic authorities. Instigate neighbourhood councils for thing like hanging baskets and park benches.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 8, 2021 21:01:43 GMT
I'd go for about a dozen much larger authorities  |
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Post by ilerda on Nov 8, 2021 21:25:40 GMT
Yes I would certainly take the chance to tidy up some of the borders.
I got to 10 simply by merging existing boroughs:
Barking & Dagenham + Havering
Newham + Redbridge + Waltham Forest
Hackney + Islington + Tower Hamlets + City of London
Camden + Hammersmith & Fulham + Kensington & Chelsea + Westminster
Barnet + Ealing + Haringey
Brent + Ealing + Harrow + Hillingdon
Hounslow + Kingston + Richmond
Lambeth + Southwark + Wandsworth
Croydon + Merton + Sutton
Bexley + Bromley + Greenwich + Lewisham
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Post by Wisconsin on Nov 8, 2021 21:29:42 GMT
Lambeth
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 21:45:25 GMT
All of them. Make London get a taste of what the rest of us are going through by making the GLA a county-wide unitary
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Post by peterl on Nov 8, 2021 21:55:05 GMT
All of them. Make London get a taste of what the rest of us are going through by making the GLA a county-wide unitary Oh but for that you need to add several incongruous areas together in one authority. So Bedford, London and Hertfordshire Council it is. Part of the South and East England Combined Authority. |
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Post by johnloony on Nov 8, 2021 22:16:01 GMT
All of them except Croydon. The rest of Greater London become a colony to be invaded, occupied, looted, plundered and exploited by, and for the benefit of, Croydon, at will and by whatever means or methods as may be appropriate or desirable. This may include looting the gold vaults of the Bank of England; recruiting cheap slave labour from the working classes of inner London, and so on.
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Post by greenhert on Nov 8, 2021 22:34:42 GMT
Richmond-upon-Thames, since no London Borough should have ever crossed the River Thames. Place Richmond itself with Kingston-upon-Thames (which is small by London Borough standards) and place Twickenham et al. (which was part of Middlesex, not Surrey, prior to 1965) with Hounslow with which it has much better connections, at least in transport terms.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 8, 2021 23:58:27 GMT
If strictly limited to boroughs, Tower Hamlets for its general disfunctionality. Would split it up piece by piece into as many different adjoining authorities as possible (there seem to be five). No. Never. You'd only import the dysfunctionality into the other Boroughs. The Inner West London Boroughs could probably be slimmed down in numbers. As when a building society goes bust, surrounding societies swarm over it dismember the dying corpse to absorb all the good parts to preserve their members, and seal off and eject the poison. You'd have to do the same with Tower Hamlets. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 9, 2021 0:10:59 GMT
All of them. Make London get a taste of what the rest of us are going through by making the GLA a county-wide unitary Oh but for that you need to add several incongruous areas together in one authority. So Bedford, London and Hertfordshire Council it is. Part of the South and East England Combined Authority. That's the weird system you have in Tokyo. Tokyo "County" is Tokyo City plus Tokyo suburbs, Tokyo City Council was abolished some decades ago leaving the Tokyo "Boroughs" running everything, but Tokyo "County" council still exists. Imagine the interegnum 1986-1999 London plus Berkshire with a single "London Valley" county council. It's also a similar shape. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Nov 9, 2021 7:59:32 GMT
RBKC. Bacon-strip it at least half a dozen and ideally ten different ways, in order to reduce the chances of anybody elected from there wielding any influence in the new authorities.
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