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Post by Strontium Dog on Sept 6, 2021 13:45:46 GMT
He'll always be Tampax to me.
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sirbenjamin
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Post by sirbenjamin on Sept 6, 2021 17:08:21 GMT
I've been a licensing service today for a new priest-in-charge at the (Liberal Anglo-Catholic) church I attended from the age of about nine, and still do so every few weeks. While it was relatively well-attended, both clergy and laity, I can't help but feel that she will be the last person to hold the role and it'll be 'managed decline' for the next few years as the elderly congregation dies off... with the pattern broadly repeated elsewhere. I hope I'm wrong, and being a pessimistic person, I feel similarly pessimistic about the future of other things I care about, such as real ale, live music, physical digital media, the monarchy and unpasteurised cheese. But nothing has a God-given (or otherwise) right to exist in perpetuity, and if not enough people care, stuff dies... I think you are safe enough on real ale and unpasteurised cheese. Plenty of takers for both. Live music too, though the safetyists would love to ban it. I'm with you on physical digital media. I honestly can't imagine being willing to pay for streaming and not having anything physical to show for it. I'm sure that is psychological. It's annoying how already some things aren't issued on DVD. Can't be doing with Mrs. Windsor and crew, and am rather intrigued to see how Charlie and Cowmilla work out. Would love to know if he's had the Covid vaccine. Enthusiastic homoeopathy advocates are normally anti-vaxx. I'm afraid you're probably right about the church. Liberal anglo-Catholics tend to be the nicer element alongside providing a sense of mystery and nuance but shitbags offering certainty and fear are more in fashion
I don't think any these things will die out completely in my lifetime, but they might well decline to a point beyond recognition or the landscape may change to the extent that it might as well be gone.
Real ale is a good case in point. Post-lockdown I find myself increasingly faced with a shit choice of underwhelming cask beer, and increasingly the beers that are more to my taste are only available in keg/can, which frustrates and upsets me somewhat. Even in my favourite pubs.
Streaming services - the problem is that you don't own anything and have no control over it. Those who host the stream can remove any content whenever they want. Or edit it however they choose. Also there is typically fuck-all in the way of extras and special features, and nobody bothers to do remastering and making the source material look better if it's only going to go on a streaming platform.
DVD was an upgrade to VHS. Bluray was an upgrade to DVD. 4K was an upgrade to Bluray. Streaming as an alternative to any of these is a massive step backwards.
Anyway, that's probably far enough off topic. I shall probably live long enough that there will always be a Liberal Anglo-Catholic church with a good musical tradition somewhere for me. But I might have to increase my carbon footprint to get there, I guess...
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Post by neilm on Sept 6, 2021 18:34:56 GMT
He'll always be Tampax to me. Another bloody scandal. |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 7, 2021 17:14:11 GMT
Somewhat ironic, seeing as the Bible records that St Peter had a mother-in-law. Not really, as the question is why there is no mention of his wife. In the passage about the mother-in-law, it states that, when healed, she went about her duties looking after the guests. Those duties would have been those of the wife, so it appears that, sadly, Peter was probably a widower, not uncommon at a time when spouses died often died young. You're forgetting 1 Corinthians 9:5, where Paul mentions that Peter, James, and the other Apostles took their wives with them when preaching the gospel in new places. |
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 7, 2021 17:34:40 GMT
Not really, as the question is why there is no mention of his wife. In the passage about the mother-in-law, it states that, when healed, she went about her duties looking after the guests. Those duties would have been those of the wife, so it appears that, sadly, Peter was probably a widower, not uncommon at a time when spouses died often died young. You're forgetting 1 Corinthians 9:5, where Paul mentions that Peter, James, and the other Apostles took their wives with them when preaching the gospel in new places. I was waiting for somebody (well, you actually) to bring this up. I have no problem with the apostles being married, it is the interesting question about why Peter's mother-in-law is serving and no mention of the wife. Our Pofessor, the remarkable Fr.Ken Collins, who took us for the year we studied the Pauline letters, challenged us on the narrative. The possible answer seemed to be that he was a widower who later remarried. Fr. Collins always pressed us to remember that the apostles, the evangelists, the early Christians in general, were real people with complicated lives. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Sept 7, 2021 21:19:53 GMT
You're forgetting 1 Corinthians 9:5, where Paul mentions that Peter, James, and the other Apostles took their wives with them when preaching the gospel in new places. I was waiting for somebody (well, you actually) to bring this up. I have no problem with the apostles being married, it is the interesting question about why Peter's mother-in-law is serving and no mention of the wife. Our Pofessor, the remarkable Fr.Ken Collins, who took us for the year we studied the Pauline letters, challenged us on the narrative. The possible answer seemed to be that he was a widower who later remarried. Fr. Collins always pressed us to remember that the apostles, the evangelists, the early Christians in general, were real people with complicated lives. My line would be along the lines of "why would one expect one's wife to be in her mother's house?" But it sounds like Fr Ken was/is a good guy! |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 8, 2021 7:32:27 GMT
I was waiting for somebody (well, you actually) to bring this up. I have no problem with the apostles being married, it is the interesting question about why Peter's mother-in-law is serving and no mention of the wife. Our Pofessor, the remarkable Fr.Ken Collins, who took us for the year we studied the Pauline letters, challenged us on the narrative. The possible answer seemed to be that he was a widower who later remarried. Fr. Collins always pressed us to remember that the apostles, the evangelists, the early Christians in general, were real people with complicated lives. My line would be along the lines of "why would one expect one's wife to be in her mother's house?" But it sounds like Fr Ken was/is a good guy! It states in Luke 4:38 that it was the house of Simon (AKA Peter), the mother-in-law is therefore living in her daughter's hone. Fr. Ken was a good guy, quite eccentric and terrifying as a tutor: "Open you Gospel Parallels anywhere and convince me." |
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Post by cogload on Sept 8, 2021 12:32:37 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 8, 2021 12:44:17 GMT
"now looking for a job in the Barcelona area as an agronomist".
Is that a metaphor?
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Post by neilm on Sept 8, 2021 14:34:55 GMT
"now looking for a job in the Barcelona area as an agronomist". Is that a metaphor?
Maybe he wants to maximise bread and fish production. |
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 8, 2021 14:37:10 GMT
"now looking for a job in the Barcelona area as an agronomist". Is that a metaphor?
Maybe he wants to maximise bread and fish production. He may be drinking in the Last Supper saloon. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 9, 2021 21:25:45 GMT
Ah, that one I did know. Still surprises me though! OK, I'll take the bait, albeit with an uneasy feeling that I'm betraying abysmal ignorance and making a complete fool of myself here. (It wouldn't be the first time.) But here goes ...
Is Marcus Walker someone I should have heard of?
He's the new Lord Mayor's Chaplain in Westminster. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 14, 2021 13:09:56 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 14, 2021 14:46:28 GMT
Awful man. Nazir-Ali is another example of a senior Bishop who has frequently demonstrated an embarrassing ignorance of secularism, and a form of christian supremacism which completely overrides freedom of religion.
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 14, 2021 14:59:36 GMT
It's a bizarre statement from the bishop. Very much a conversion without converting and I'm definitely not a Catholic, honest gov, I just like blokes being in charge. Whatever floats your boat I suppose... |
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Post by greyfriar on Oct 15, 2021 0:22:26 GMT
A welcome addition to the Ordinariate. Does this come at financial cost in terms of CofE pension?
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Post by john07 on Oct 15, 2021 1:43:12 GMT
Also, small congregations are often very reluctant to close. Locally, we have four Anglican churches in two benefices, though one is now little more than a school chapel. The vicar of one of them has the freehold which means he has a job for life. They wanted him to be Team Rector to all four churches. He advised them to pay a voluntary visit to a taxidermist. Two of the churches are the same churchmanship but they hate each other so refuse to merge even though one of them meets in a room in the church hall as the church was found to be riddled with asbestos. The fourth church is anglo-Catholic but they ended up with a vicar who isn't. None of them have a regular congregation of much over 30. So reminiscent of my childhood in nonconformist North Wales. 40 regular worshippers split between Baptist, Congregationalist, Methodist (Calvinist), Methodist (Wesleyan) - four congregations and four buildings. Dafydd Iwan (former Plaid Cymru bigwig) even had a song lyric for any suggestion of amalgamating: "Pawb o'r capel nesa' yn dod i capel ni" = Everybody from the next chapel coming to our chapel (Oh, and some denominations would have two chapels, one for each language) That reminds me of the Jewish joke about someone who was stranded on a desert island. The ship was wrecked and he was the only survivor. He was able to use the materials salvaged from the ship to firstly build himself a house to live in and later other buildings. He found the film equipment and movies from from the ship and built a cinema. He carried on and built a pub, a laundrette, a shop and two synagogues. Subsequently a ship arrived to rescue him. He showed the rescuers around the village he had built. Someone asked why he had built two synagogues. He replied that the first was the one he went to and the second was the one he didn’t go to! |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 15, 2021 4:39:47 GMT
Jacob Rees-Mogg must be chuffed |
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Post by peterl on Oct 15, 2021 16:23:11 GMT
A welcome addition to the Ordinariate. Does this come at financial cost in terms of CofE pension? From what I have heard from other Ordinariate priests, they can still enjoy their CofE pensions. |
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Post by greenchristian on Oct 15, 2021 17:17:16 GMT
A welcome addition to the Ordinariate. Does this come at financial cost in terms of CofE pension? Why would it? No other pensions come with conditions beyond staying alive. |
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