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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 13:04:05 GMT
Northbrook (Worthing BC)
Mike Barrett (Labour) - 561
Sean McDonald (Conservative) - 547
Keith Sunderland (Lib Dem) - 149
Rejected / invalid - 10
Turnout - 25%
LAB gain
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Post by matureleft on May 6, 2022 13:14:33 GMT
Northbrook (Worthing BC) Mike Barrett (Labour) - 561 Sean McDonald (Conservative) - 547 Keith Sunderland (Lib Dem) - 149 Rejected / invalid - 10 Turnout - 25% LAB gain But still a miserable turnout here even when the contest is clearly sharp. Well done to Labour for pulling it off but clearly some work to be done by the new councillor to demonstrate the value of having one at all! |
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 13:21:18 GMT
Salvington (Worthing BC)
Melanie Ling (Green) - 325
Heather Mercer (Conservative) - 1,351
Lysanne Skinner (Labour) - 882
Rejected / invalid - 21
Turnout - 36%
CON hold
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 13:22:52 GMT
Tarring (Worthing BC)
Karen Brooks (Green) - 142
Rita Garner (Labour & Co-op) - 1,269
Iona Harte (Lib Dem) - 652
John Salisbury (Conservative) - 515
Rejected / invalid - 10
Turnout - 40%
LAB gain
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 13:32:58 GMT
Castle - 2 vacancies (Worthing BC)
Ibsha Choudhury (Labour) - 1,297
Robin Rogers (Lib Dem) - 281
Habib Shashaty (Conservative) - 658
Christopher Smith (Green) - 188
Samuel Theodoridi (Labour) - 1,060
Nicky Waight (Conservative) - 696
Nick Wiltshire (Lib Dem) - 287
Rejected / invalid - 12
Turnout - 34%
Two LAB gains
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 13:47:19 GMT
Selden (Worthing BC)
Keith Bickers (Conservative) - 685
Dan Hermitage (Labour) - 1,455
Yvonne Leonard (Lib Dem) - 130
Clare Marshall (Green) - 144
Rejected / invalid - 11
Turnout - 39%
LAB hold
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 13:48:03 GMT
Labour also won the popular vote in Worthing - by about 4k. First time Cons have been beaten in Worthing since 1995, when LibDems did it by 300.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 6, 2022 13:49:57 GMT
Labour also won the popular vote in Worthing - by about 4k. First time Cons have been beaten in Worthing since 1995, when LibDems did it by 300. 1996 (they would have had much bigger popular vote leads in 1994 and 1995) |
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 13:52:27 GMT
Labour also won the popular vote in Worthing - by about 4k. First time Cons have been beaten in Worthing since 1995, when LibDems did it by 300. 1996 (they would have had much bigger popular vote leads in 1994 and 1995) Yes, sorry, you're right. |
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Post by matureleft on May 6, 2022 13:57:39 GMT
That's some Labour electoral machine. I know that they do talks about it. It shows what can be done from an unpromising standing start of nil representation. 5 years ago they had no councillors at all. Staggering.
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Post by aargauer on May 6, 2022 14:13:55 GMT
That's some Labour electoral machine. I know that they do talks about it. It shows what can be done from an unpromising standing start of nil representation. 5 years ago they had no councillors at all. Staggering. Is the demographic change as rapid as the change in representation? I have been to Worthing in 2018 or 2019 (can't remember which) and on the face of it, didn't look as Brighton-y as I was expecting. Not really a dump either, just very normal. I also went to Tunbridge Wells for the first time that summer to see if it was somewhere I'd want to live, and frankly was shocked - far more run down than I was expecting, a real dump for the most part - is that part of the tories troubles there, or is it simply that the Tories are pissing the long standing locals off? Tonbridge on the other hand was lovely. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 14:21:52 GMT
That's some Labour electoral machine. I know that they do talks about it. It shows what can be done from an unpromising standing start of nil representation. 5 years ago they had no councillors at all. Staggering. Is the demographic change as rapid as the change in representation? I have been to Worthing in 2018 or 2019 (can't remember which) and on the face of it, didn't look as Brighton-y as I was expecting. The demographic change was there before the rise in Labour, but has continued and spread through the town. I won Central as a green in 2014, and Pier (county division) as a LibDem in 2009 on the back of it. Ten years ago, it was primarily Central, Heene, Marine and Gaisford. Broadwater not so much, and Selden is a bit of a different Labour (or at least non-Tory) demographic. Even after the collapse of the LibDems, from say 2004-2012, there was no one there to pick it up and run with it. The key was that a huge number of people locally signed up to Labour when Corbyn became leader. I've heard some incredible numbers quoted, but I'm sure there are people who could give more accurate figures than I know. I do know (because I saw them) that when I was contesting Central in 2018, Labour had up to a hundred people out canvassing on some nights against me. For a council ward, that's amazing - and not beatable. |
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Post by matureleft on May 6, 2022 14:48:10 GMT
Is the demographic change as rapid as the change in representation? I have been to Worthing in 2018 or 2019 (can't remember which) and on the face of it, didn't look as Brighton-y as I was expecting. The demographic change was there before the rise in Labour, but has continued and spread through the town. I won Central as a green in 2014, and Pier (county division) as a LibDem in 2009 on the back of it. Ten years ago, it was primarily Central, Heene, Marine and Gaisford. Broadwater not so much, and Selden is a bit of a different Labour (or at least non-Tory) demographic. Even after the collapse of the LibDems, from say 2004-2012, there was no one there to pick it up and run with it. The key was that a huge number of people locally signed up to Labour when Corbyn became leader. I've heard some incredible numbers quoted, but I'm sure there are people who could give more accurate figures than I know. I do know (because I saw them) that when I was contesting Central in 2018, Labour had up to a hundred people out canvassing on some nights against me. For a council ward, that's amazing - and not beatable. Yes. And you hint at another part of their success, of which I’ve certainly heard. As you say there were plenty of Corbyn fans. Yet somehow, through the past 6 years, they’ve maintained a pretty good level of comradeship and focus. Corbyn’s departure must have been a major disappointment to a significant number. Yet they stuck to the local task. Many elsewhere have not (indeed many of those new recruIts were uninterested in local government) and have either left the party or engaged in intra-party struggle. Of course they now face a major challenge: running a small district council in straitened circumstances in such a way as to make a difference in their community. I envy them that task but it will both be hard and will provoke division unless the leadership is excellent. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 14:56:57 GMT
The demographic change was there before the rise in Labour, but has continued and spread through the town. I won Central as a green in 2014, and Pier (county division) as a LibDem in 2009 on the back of it. Ten years ago, it was primarily Central, Heene, Marine and Gaisford. Broadwater not so much, and Selden is a bit of a different Labour (or at least non-Tory) demographic. Even after the collapse of the LibDems, from say 2004-2012, there was no one there to pick it up and run with it. The key was that a huge number of people locally signed up to Labour when Corbyn became leader. I've heard some incredible numbers quoted, but I'm sure there are people who could give more accurate figures than I know. I do know (because I saw them) that when I was contesting Central in 2018, Labour had up to a hundred people out canvassing on some nights against me. For a council ward, that's amazing - and not beatable. Yes. And you hint at another part of their success, of which I’ve certainly heard. As you say there were plenty of Corbyn fans. Yet somehow, through the past 6 years, they’ve maintained a pretty good level of comradeship and focus. Corbyn’s departure must have been a major disappointment to a significant number. Yet they stuck to the local task. Many elsewhere have not (indeed many of those new recruIts were uninterested in local government) and have either left the party or engaged in intra-party struggle. Of course they now face a major challenge: running a small district council in straitened circumstances in such a way as to make a difference in their community. I envy them that task but it will both be hard and will provoke division unless the leadership is excellent. This is a very good point. My Labour friend I mentioned above is very much not a Corbyn fan, but is very clear about party loyalty. They stuck with it and kept their head down while the Corbynites ran the local party (certainly in West, not so sure abut EWAS). There is, AIUI, still a fair bit of factionalism, but while you're successful, it should be relatively easy to manage. The straitened circumstances point is also well made. Without knowing exactly how the finances stack up at the moment, my impression is that the Tories have been burning through the levy money from developers (S106 money to me, I'm sure it's called something different now), just as they did in the early 90s, so the incoming administration might find the cupboard a bit bare. The Tories have also borrowed significantly to fund the purchase of some town centre development sites, which could be a problem if they aren't developed fairly quickly, and profitably. I've no doubt that if there are problems down the line, the Tories will seize the opportunity to blame Labour mismanagement! |
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Post by maxque on May 6, 2022 14:57:00 GMT
Third: Lab 9 (+5), Con 4 (-4), LD 0 (-1)
Council: Lab 23 (+6), Con 12 (-5), Ind 1, LD 1 (-1)
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Post by batman on May 6, 2022 15:07:48 GMT
Northbrook (Worthing BC) Mike Barrett (Labour) - 561 Sean McDonald (Conservative) - 547 Keith Sunderland (Lib Dem) - 149 Rejected / invalid - 10 Turnout - 25% LAB gain But still a miserable turnout here even when the contest is clearly sharp. Well done to Labour for pulling it off but clearly some work to be done by the new councillor to demonstrate the value of having one at all! AFAIK we did no canvassing or knocking up here and still won. If we put in some effort, as surely we will next year, hopefully the turnout will increase quite a bit. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on May 6, 2022 15:09:43 GMT
But still a miserable turnout here even when the contest is clearly sharp. Well done to Labour for pulling it off but clearly some work to be done by the new councillor to demonstrate the value of having one at all! AFAIK we did no canvassing or knocking up here and still won. If we put in some effort, as surely we will next year, hopefully the turnout will increase quite a bit. There was definitely some, but I don't know how much. Certainly saw stuff on social media with some Labour people out and about (which could have been for show, of course), and my Labour friend said they'd been out in Northbrook. |
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Post by samtheodoridi on May 6, 2022 22:07:57 GMT
AFAIK we did no canvassing or knocking up here and still won. If we put in some effort, as surely we will next year, hopefully the turnout will increase quite a bit. There was definitely some, but I don't know how much. Certainly saw stuff on social media with some Labour people out and about (which could have been for show, of course), and my Labour friend said they'd been out in Northbrook. All we did was put out a leaflet in Northbrook |
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Post by Andrew_S on May 7, 2022 6:01:49 GMT
Popular vote [using highest vote method in Castle]:
Lab 15,201
Con 11,340
Green 3,241
LD 1,958
Freedom Alliance 46
Lab 47.8%
Con 35.7%
Green 10.2%
LD 6.2%
Freedom Alliance 0.1%
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Post by matureleft on May 7, 2022 6:48:47 GMT
There was definitely some, but I don't know how much. Certainly saw stuff on social media with some Labour people out and about (which could have been for show, of course), and my Labour friend said they'd been out in Northbrook. All we did was put out a leaflet in Northbrook Wow. In a way I’m impressed. It seemed a reasonable target on the figures but clearly the team didn’t want overstretch with plenty of other things to do. Assuming the new councillor is good and is pleased to win there’ll be plenty of work to do! |
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