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Post by michael2019 on Jun 7, 2021 14:03:02 GMT
Allegedly more people get parole if their hearing if after lunch! Of course it should all be done by AI which is not subject to these inconsistencies..... AI is subject to an entirely different set of inconsistencies and biases, though. ah but is that more inconsistent? The computer says "no"! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 21:09:04 GMT
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 8, 2021 12:25:37 GMT
I've spotted a couple of mistakes.
The initial plans aren't going to be released on 8th May, as you state in the first line.
The last line of step 1 says "net" when it should be "next" The first line of the Read the Rules section says "rite" when it should be "write"
The content's all good, apart from those nitpicks. The next step is figuring out how to circulate it to the people who need to read it.
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Post by Wisconsin on Jun 8, 2021 17:20:14 GMT
Reads well.
(Re typos - it says ‘Cam ad Dursley’ at one point.)
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Post by ilerda on Jun 8, 2021 17:27:54 GMT
Interestingly in their reports there are a number of places where the BCE explicitly says “we would welcome views on this” or something along those lines. Might it be true to suggest these are open doors, whereas comments on other matters might be less well received?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 8, 2021 17:54:46 GMT
Interestingly in their reports there are a number of places where the BCE explicitly says “we would welcome views on this” or something along those lines. Might it be true to suggest these are open doors, whereas comments on other matters might be less well received? My reading of that is "what we have come up with isn't brilliant, but it's the best we could see. If somebody else can spot a better alternative we'd be really, really grateful (though we won't actually admit so publicly).". |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jun 8, 2021 18:03:19 GMT
Interestingly in their reports there are a number of places where the BCE explicitly says “we would welcome views on this” or something along those lines. Might it be true to suggest these are open doors, whereas comments on other matters might be less well received? My reading of that is "what we have come up with isn't brilliant, but it's the best we could see. If somebody else can spot a better alternative we'd be really, really grateful (though we won't actually admit so publicly).". in a couple of cases they actually describe an alternative, so it was really "we had to put one of these into the initial map. We tossed a coin" |
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Post by jamie on Jul 20, 2021 18:09:46 GMT
My response is a bit over 10000 characters. Would it better to upload as a supporting document or just trim down for the web page?
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Post by Wisconsin on Jul 20, 2021 22:18:09 GMT
Submit as a PDF with impressive looking formatting, hyperlinks, images, appendices etc.
Use the web form as an executive summary.
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 20, 2021 22:27:19 GMT
Submit as a PDF with impressive looking formatting, hyperlinks, images, appendices etc. Use the web form as an executive summary. You are London Republic and I claim my £5 __________________________________________ 1. Don't forget the footnotes |
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Post by rcronald on Jul 21, 2021 3:24:25 GMT
I've been writing a guide on how to get he BCE to listen to what you say at consultations, aimed at people who are interested enough to respond but not engaged or active enough to necessarily know how. I will post it here for appraisal in a bit, but in the meantime any advice/guidance on what to include? This needs a fuller reply than I have time for at the moment but I looked at a lot of public responses to the 2018 review and I'd suggest to start off with -
- Read the rules. It was amazing the number of submissions that the BCE couldn't have acted on, even if it wanted to, because they didn't comply with the statutory rules.
- Even if you are motivated by political considerations, on no account say so. Dress it all up in terms of local communities and so forth.
- Think through the knock-on effects on other seats of whatever you are proposing.
When I wrote to the BCE about Oldham East and Birmingham Erdington it was a rare case when it made sense community wise and also happened to suit my political leanings. |
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 21, 2021 7:58:08 GMT
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Post by bjornhattan on Jul 21, 2021 8:03:25 GMT
Did you write that in LaTeX? Either way it's very impressive. |
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 21, 2021 8:30:04 GMT
Did you write that in LaTeX? Either way it's very impressive. If I ever need to do something impressive in print, it's time to get LaTeX out. All the Previews books are designed in it. |
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Post by islington on Jul 21, 2021 9:17:11 GMT
Did you write that in LaTeX? Either way it's very impressive. That is extremely impressive and I'd love to learn how to do stuff like that.
On the other hand, for the 2018 zombie I just submitted word docs with maps done on BA and I still got much of my stuff accepted.
I also made a point of attending the local hearing and introducing my plan in person, and answering questions.
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Post by cibwr on Jul 25, 2021 14:39:47 GMT
LaTeX what you get is what you meant
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Post by islington on Jul 25, 2021 16:34:59 GMT
We're getting near the line now - just over a week to go.
My proposals have been ready for a couple of weeks but I've held off from submitting them in case of a late change of mind somewhere. I'll get them in over the next few days.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 25, 2021 16:48:04 GMT
As usual I've left everything to the last minute. I've long been settled on what I want to propose but haven't written anything up yet.
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Post by Foggy on Jul 25, 2021 19:55:06 GMT
Got round to starting my write-ups over the past couple of weeks, but still have loads to do.
Am planning to submit for 6 regions. Might not have a full submission for the South East but should at least submit a partial one.
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jul 26, 2021 14:25:36 GMT
Here's a question:
Are the BCE more likely to take counter-proposals seriously if they are presented rather impressively like this as fully-fledged formal proposal document?
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If proposals are kept to minimal verbosity - e.g. a single field of text, outlining only what one would do differently to the original proposal, with just the basic detail?
I ask because my counter-proposal for Ipswich/Suffolk was accepted for the last review, but I went down the latter route, mainly due to laziness and waiting until submission day.
But if one way is inherently more 'persuasive' than the other I'd definitely put the extra work in.
I can see it from both points of view - a 'bigger' formalised counter-proposal will have a gravitas about it, but would instinctively feel like a greater deviation from the original proposals than a few sentences, even if it's not actually true.
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