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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 25, 2022 9:54:49 GMT
He topped the poll in Bruce Castle. ALI Ibrahim Lab 1621 DOGAN Erdal Lab 1574 JAMESON Sue Lab 1574 HARLING Pamela Jean Grn 372 BARTON James Andrew Con 268 BIELECKA Agnieszka Barbara Con 221 MOORTHY Niveda Con 205 PRAGER Alison LD 164 SWEET Alex LD 137 FENBY TAYLOR Matthew LD 132 This is the 'Bruce' of finsobruce I believe (although I'm not sure he previously represented that ward). The old (pre-2002) Bruce Grove ward was represented by Bernie Grant so has a bit of a history of electing cunts (although I think this ward bears more relationship to the old Park ward of that vintage) |
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 25, 2022 10:00:56 GMT
Spokesman for CAGE, I see, that being Moazzam Begg's bunch of apologists for murderous thugs acting in (their version of) the name of Allah. Shouldn't that have been a red light to any mainstream political party?
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 25, 2022 11:03:52 GMT
I cannot believe he was ever selected. |
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Post by mattbewilson on May 25, 2022 11:20:58 GMT
I cannot believe he was ever selected. I can |
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Post by finsobruce on May 25, 2022 17:18:00 GMT
He topped the poll in Bruce Castle. ALI Ibrahim Lab 1621 DOGAN Erdal Lab 1574 JAMESON Sue Lab 1574 HARLING Pamela Jean Grn 372 BARTON James Andrew Con 268 BIELECKA Agnieszka Barbara Con 221 MOORTHY Niveda Con 205 PRAGER Alison LD 164 SWEET Alex LD 137 FENBY TAYLOR Matthew LD 132 This is the 'Bruce' of finsobruce I believe (although I'm not sure he previously represented that ward). The old (pre-2002) Bruce Grove ward was represented by Bernie Grant so has a bit of a history of electing cunts (although I think this ward bears more relationship to the old Park ward of that vintage) It is, although as you correctly point out it has much more of the old Park ward than the previous Bruce Grove ward. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 25, 2022 22:48:24 GMT
This is the 'Bruce' of finsobruce I believe (although I'm not sure he previously represented that ward). The old (pre-2002) Bruce Grove ward was represented by Bernie Grant so has a bit of a history of electing cunts (although I think this ward bears more relationship to the old Park ward of that vintage) It is, although as you correctly point out it has much more of the old Park ward than the previous Bruce Grove ward. I should clarify perhaps that my slightly disparaging comments were directed solely at Bernie Grant (as well of course as the new councillor under discussion here) and not anyone else who may or may not have represented the area previously.. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 26, 2022 15:50:22 GMT
Newham Councillor Belgica Guaña (Lab, Canning Town South) - for the usual according to the Daily MailIs Guana the feminine version of guano? |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jun 7, 2022 12:19:42 GMT
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Post by batman on Jun 8, 2022 7:32:36 GMT
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Post by lancastrian on Jun 10, 2022 19:15:48 GMT
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 10, 2022 19:32:45 GMT
Well, when your religion holds jews in extreme contempt, you have to be extremely disciplined not to make such remarks, and that degree of discipline is hard to sustain.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 10, 2022 19:34:24 GMT
The Conservative group on that council sound like a fucking disgrace as well
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 10, 2022 20:19:23 GMT
Well, when your religion holds jews in extreme contempt, you have to be extremely disciplined not to make such remarks, and that degree of discipline is hard to sustain. His comments sound more like taking criticism of Israel too far than they sound like repeating some of the antisemitic parts of the Quran or Hadith. Remember that, for most Muslims, Islam is more about the practices than it is about the doctrine. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 10, 2022 20:23:16 GMT
Well, when your religion holds jews in extreme contempt, you have to be extremely disciplined not to make such remarks, and that degree of discipline is hard to sustain. His comments sound more like taking criticism of Israel too far than they sound like repeating some of the antisemitic parts of the Quran or Hadith. Remember that, for most Muslims, Islam is more about the practices than it is about the doctrine. And at the moment almost any criticism of Israel counts as "too far" in Starmer's Labour. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 10, 2022 20:49:20 GMT
Well, when your religion holds jews in extreme contempt, you have to be extremely disciplined not to make such remarks, and that degree of discipline is hard to sustain. His comments sound more like taking criticism of Israel too far than they sound like repeating some of the antisemitic parts of the Quran or Hadith. Remember that, for most Muslims, Islam is more about the practices than it is about the doctrine. It's all part of the theology. It is very very hard for a muslim to accept Jewish "occupation" (as they see it) of land that was once under muslim rule, regardless of international rulings to the contrary. Add to that the enmity between Mohammed and the Jews and you have a difficult situation. |
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Post by aargauer on Jun 10, 2022 20:54:08 GMT
Well, when your religion holds jews in extreme contempt, you have to be extremely disciplined not to make such remarks, and that degree of discipline is hard to sustain. Arent they meant to treat people "of the book" reasonably. As opposed to how they treat atheists. Saudi Arabia claims that to be an atheist is terrorism. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 10, 2022 20:57:23 GMT
Well, when your religion holds jews in extreme contempt, you have to be extremely disciplined not to make such remarks, and that degree of discipline is hard to sustain. Arent they meant to treat people "of the book" reasonably. As opposed to how they treat atheists. Saudi Arabia claims that to be an atheist is terrorism. Up to a point, Lord Copper. Practice varies somewhat, but as Jews are almost totally absent from most muslim countries, it's not put to the test very often. |
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 10, 2022 21:00:00 GMT
Well, when your religion holds jews in extreme contempt, you have to be extremely disciplined not to make such remarks, and that degree of discipline is hard to sustain. Arent they meant to treat people "of the book" reasonably. As opposed to how they treat atheists. Saudi Arabia claims that to be an atheist is terrorism. There are Quran verses and Hadith which teach that (for a certain definition of "reasonably"), and others which are extremely anti-Semitic. None of the Islamic holy texts mention atheists, since there weren't any identifiable atheists in 7th century Arabia (it was just Jews, Christians, Pagans, and Muslims). |
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Post by aargauer on Jun 10, 2022 21:05:43 GMT
Arent they meant to treat people "of the book" reasonably. As opposed to how they treat atheists. Saudi Arabia claims that to be an atheist is terrorism. There are Quran verses and Hadith which teach that (for a certain definition of "reasonably"), and others which are extremely anti-Semitic. None of the Islamic holy texts mention atheists, since there weren't any identifiable atheists in 7th century Arabia (it was just Jews, Christians, Pagans, and Muslims). Interesting. I've never read religious texts other than the New Testament (which I have an odd interest in as an atheist - particularly in the textual variants of ancient scripts, and in the synoptic problem / priority of the gospels). |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 10, 2022 21:13:57 GMT
Well, when your religion holds jews in extreme contempt, you have to be extremely disciplined not to make such remarks, and that degree of discipline is hard to sustain. Arent they meant to treat people "of the book" reasonably. As opposed to how they treat atheists. Saudi Arabia claims that to be an atheist is terrorism. Christopher Marlowe was accused of being an atheist in the lead up to his death. In those days a charge almost as dangerous as being accused of being a spy. |
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