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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 10, 2021 15:04:36 GMT
Devon. Again, main thing I'm unhappy with is the Tiverton constituency needing an orphan ward from West Devon. But that helps to put boundary-crossing in context: it would just change where Tiverton picked up its orphan from, rather than improving anything. And there'd still be a constituency sprawling from the outskirts of Exeter across Dartmoor to the outskirts of Plymouth. I'm pleased that I anaged to keep a reasonably recognizable Plymouth Moor View – Sutton is brutal, but I'm happy enough with that.  1 Honiton 70318 Yes 2 Exeter East and Exmouth 70022 Yes (let's get rid of the stupid "East Devon" name) 3 Exeter 71713 Yes (it's really neat how the City of Exeter and East Devon work perfectly for three constituencies) 4 Tiverton 69949 Yes (and it's correspondingly really annoying how Mid and North Devon don't quite work for two!) 5 North Devon 70895 Yes 6 Torridge and Okehampton 70815 Yes 7 Newton Abbot 70531 Yes 8 Torbay 69783 Yes 9 Totnes 70873 Yes 10 Plymouth Sutton and South West Devon 70649 Yes 11 Plymouth Moor View 73141 Yes 12 Plymouth Devonport 70326 Yes 13 West Devon 70439 Yes (faintly ridiculous constituency, but the alternative is large-scale reconfiguration of Newton Abbot, (possibly Torbay,) Totnes, and South West Devon) |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 10, 2021 15:12:04 GMT
Would Plymstock be a better name for Sutton and SW Devon?
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 10, 2021 16:50:30 GMT
Would Plymstock be a better name for Sutton and SW Devon? well technically it is Sutton, Plymstock and SW Devon. Knowing recent Boundary Commissiins they'd probably like "Sutton and Ivybridge", no mention of Plymouth. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 10, 2021 16:58:14 GMT
Very similar to my own plan for Somerset. Keynsham would be a more elegant name for the successor to North East Somerset, given that it will be central to the constituency and also its largest settlement. It is better to just split Yeovil into Yeovil and Chard, especially when the Somerton part from Somerton & Frome is added to both and distributed according to electoral quota requirements; the rural eastern parts of Taunton Deane can then be added to get Chard into quota. As for west Somerset and large constituencies there, simply add the westernmost parts around Exmoor National Park to most of North Devon to create Barnstaple & Exmoor, which at the same time also means less unnecessary change for Dorset and neatens up the redrawn Devon seats. 1) Keynsham is peripheral and very North *East* Somerset. That would be very, very pitchforky. The *constituency* is very North East Somerset. You could almost (i suppose not quite) get away with keeping the name. The classic inelegant solution that keeps the locals happy would be to slap on some placename from the N Somerset portion. Speaking of which, clearly Somerton & Frome doesn't lose any naming particles but gains a Mid and a Nor?
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 10, 2021 18:14:03 GMT
Somerset/Devon combo, putting Wellington in with Mid Devon:  Bath 73241 Wansdyke 73059 North Somerset 70267 Weston-super-mare 70722 Frome 70432 Wells 76152 Yeovil 69901 Somerton & Chard 70686 Taunton 70412 Bridgwater & W Somerset 72320 Tiverton & Wellington 71114 North Devon 70895 Tavistock & Torridge 70337 Dartmoor 72538 East Devon 69724 Exmouth & Exeter E 70616 Exeter 71713 Newton Abbot 72956 Torbay 69783 Totnes 75208 SW Devon 71804 Plymouth Moor View 70184 Plymouth Sutton & Devonport 76689 On the one hand, an unnecessary crossing of the Somerset-Devon border is never going to be popular. On the other hand, if you're going to do it then along the line of the M5 and the railway line is as good an option as any, and this does minimise disruption elsewhere - particularly in Plymouth and the rest of south Devon. Might be a useful option if Wiltshire can actually stand alone? |
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Post by greenhert on Jan 10, 2021 18:23:37 GMT
My plan for Devon & Somerset: ibb.co/hVL3myvibb.co/Jz7VVYNibb.co/PxHtqxHibb.co/qkRt12j1. Barnstaple & Exmoor (succeeds North Devon) 70,298 2. Torrington (succeeds Torridge & West Devon) 70,656 3. Tavistock (succeeds Central Devon in practice) 71,956 4. Plymouth Central (succeeds Plymouth Moor View in practice but actually almost identical to 1997-2010 boundaries of Plymouth Sutton) 75,750 5. Plymouth West (succeeds Plymouth Sutton in practice but actually almost identical to 1997-2010 boundaries of Plymouth Devonport) 71,123 6. Plymouth East & Ivybridge (succeeds South West Devon) 71,578 7. Totnes 70,873 8. Torquay & Paignton (succeeds Torbay) 69,783 9. Newton Abbot 70,581 10. Exeter West (succeeds Exeter) 71,713 11. Exeter East & Exmouth (succeeds East Devon) 70,022 12. Honiton (succeeds Tiverton & Honiton) 70,318 13. Tiverton & South Molton (new seat) 70,783 14. Bath 73,241 15. Keynsham (succeeds North East Somerset) 73,059 16. Weston-super-Mare 70,722 17. Portishead & Nailsea (succeeds North Somerset) 70,267 18. Frome (succeeds Somerton & Frome, can also be called East Somerset) 72,655 19. Wells 75,843 20. Bridgwater & Minehead (succeeds Bridgwater & West Somerset) 73,072 21. Yeovil 71,906 22. Chard (new seat) 69,848 23. Taunton & Wellington (succeeds Taunton Deane) 74,757 |
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Post by YL on Jan 10, 2021 18:49:32 GMT
Here's my Dorset. It's very similar to 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️'s (in fact I think identical outside BCP).  1. Christchurch & Southbourne (75,225) 2. Bournemouth Central (70,723) 3. Bournemouth North & Poole North (71,488; number not on map). Or Kinson & Broadstone if that name is felt too hideous, or whatever. 4. Poole (70,323) 5. East Dorset (76,761) 6. North Dorset (72,476) 7. South Dorset (76,155) 8. West Dorset (74,320) I suspect, though, that the Commission will stay closer to the existing constituencies and double cross the new border, even though it's absolutely not what their predecessors would have done. |
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Post by swindonlad on Jan 10, 2021 19:19:49 GMT
I'm not sure there is a Wiltshire problem (unless this is one where the numbers currently on Boundary Assistant aren't what the BCE will actually be using?) If you remove Ridgeway ward from Swindon and then swap Shaw and Lydiard & Freshbrook for Covingham & Dorcan, St Margaret & South Marston and Blunsdon & Highworth then the two Swindon seats works, and the Wiltshire wards are small enough and with a big enough range of electorates to get five seats right at the top of the quota. You may have to swap a town or two between seats, but none of them need to be split. Getting Swindon to work is relatively easy once you take out one of the rural wards, however, can you say how you get Wiltshire to work. Once again Chippenham & Trowbridge are located in a really inconvenient location |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 10, 2021 19:36:17 GMT
I'm not sure there is a Wiltshire problem (unless this is one where the numbers currently on Boundary Assistant aren't what the BCE will actually be using?) If you remove Ridgeway ward from Swindon and then swap Shaw and Lydiard & Freshbrook for Covingham & Dorcan, St Margaret & South Marston and Blunsdon & Highworth then the two Swindon seats works, and the Wiltshire wards are small enough and with a big enough range of electorates to get five seats right at the top of the quota. You may have to swap a town or two between seats, but none of them need to be split. Getting Swindon to work is relatively easy once you take out one of the rural wards, however, can you say how you get Wiltshire to work. Once again Chippenham & Trowbridge are located in a really inconvenient location I found a couple of solutions, although given that those wards aren't going to be the ones that are used it's a little academic. Both solutions relied upon shifting Amesbury and Tilly & Wylye Valley out of Salisbury and replacing them with Tisbury, Nadder & East Knoyle, Mere and Warminster Rural and with taking only Ridgeway out of Swindon - the former might not be required in all cases but the latter certainly is. Here's a Dorset map. Certainly inferior to a couple of versions already posted, but I thought a couple of the concepts were interesting. I'm posting it mostly to see if it gives anybody any ideas to riff off:  Christchurch & Bournemoth N 73812 Bournemouth S and Poole E 70124 Bournemouth W 75074 Poole 75205 Mid Dorset 75413 N Dorset 75743 W Dorset 70122 S Dorset 71978 |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jan 10, 2021 19:42:36 GMT
A first go at Gloucestershire (and Bristol, though I'm not super happy with my boundaries there): Forest of Dean - unchanged Tewkesbury - loses Longlevens, Winchcombe and Isbourne; gains Up Hatherley and Benhall & the Reddings Gloucester - gains Longlevens, loses both Quedgeley wards plus Kingsway Cheltenham - loses Up Hatherley and Benhall & the Reddings Cotswold - gains Winchcombe and Isbourne; loses the three Tetbury wards, Grumbolds Ash and the parts of Stroud District Stroud - gains the 3 wards from Gloucester and Minchinhampton; loses Nailsworth, Coaley & Uley, Berkeley Vale, Dursley, Cam East and Cam West Dursley & Yate - the leftover parts of Stroud and Cotswold Districts, plus Charfield, Chipping Sodbury, Dodington, Yate North and Yate Central Thornbury & Bradley Stoke - Thornbury, Severn Vale, Frampton Cotterell, Pilning, Winterbourne, Charlton & Cribbs, Patchway, Bradley Stoke x2, Stoke Gifford Kingswood - gains Boyd Valley Bristol North West - loses Stoke Bishop, gains Filton Bristol West - loses Ashley, Lawrence Hill, Easton; gains Stoke Bishop Bristol East - loses Brislington x2, Stockwood; gains Stoke Park & Cheswick, Frenchay & Downend, Staple Hill & Mangotsfield Bristol South - loses Knowle Bristol South East - Ashley, Brislington East, Brislington West, Easton, Knowle, Lawrence Hill, Stockwood Hmm. Quedgeley and Kingsway into Stroud doesn't fill me with joy on their behalf but I can see it may well be unavoidable and has been proposed in the past. On the whole Nailsworth feels more Stroud-ish than Minchinhampton and while I think both really look to Stroud I'd rather have Nailsworth than Minch if we can only have one. (I can see that the map looks neater the way you've suggested, but on the ground the sticky-out bit that would be the Nailsworth Salient is in fact straight down the valley along the A46 whereas Minch is up the hill and across the common - it definitely faces Stroud more than Ciren, but once you're up on the top there you are up the Cotswold scarp and its a straight flat drive to the A419 and then on to Ciren; so it may be "Stroud" but it's "less Stroud than Nailsworth is" if you see what I mean. Stroud is the Five Valleys and the Severn Escarpment, Cotswold is the Dip Slope and Thames watershed. The Dursley & Yate seat sets my teeth on edge. No obvious centre to it and the fact that it could be called "Dursley, Yate and Tetbury" or even "D Y T Chipping Sodbury & Berkeley" shows the lack of coherence in either central place or common identity as a sub-region. Three separate district or unitary councils, such fun for the MP to deal with. But I can see that Gloucestersire is going to be a bugger one way or another, maybe this is the sacrificial seat needed to make the others work. Sorry if that sounds whingy, I can't do this stuff myself, but thought I'd chuck it in in case anyone can see any solutions or mitigations. |
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Post by greenhert on Jan 10, 2021 19:47:47 GMT
A first go at Gloucestershire (and Bristol, though I'm not super happy with my boundaries there): Forest of Dean - unchanged Tewkesbury - loses Longlevens, Winchcombe and Isbourne; gains Up Hatherley and Benhall & the Reddings Gloucester - gains Longlevens, loses both Quedgeley wards plus Kingsway Cheltenham - loses Up Hatherley and Benhall & the Reddings Cotswold - gains Winchcombe and Isbourne; loses the three Tetbury wards, Grumbolds Ash and the parts of Stroud District Stroud - gains the 3 wards from Gloucester and Minchinhampton; loses Nailsworth, Coaley & Uley, Berkeley Vale, Dursley, Cam East and Cam West Dursley & Yate - the leftover parts of Stroud and Cotswold Districts, plus Charfield, Chipping Sodbury, Dodington, Yate North and Yate Central Thornbury & Bradley Stoke - Thornbury, Severn Vale, Frampton Cotterell, Pilning, Winterbourne, Charlton & Cribbs, Patchway, Bradley Stoke x2, Stoke Gifford Kingswood - gains Boyd Valley Bristol North West - loses Stoke Bishop, gains Filton Bristol West - loses Ashley, Lawrence Hill, Easton; gains Stoke Bishop Bristol East - loses Brislington x2, Stockwood; gains Stoke Park & Cheswick, Frenchay & Downend, Staple Hill & Mangotsfield Bristol South - loses Knowle Bristol South East - Ashley, Brislington East, Brislington West, Easton, Knowle, Lawrence Hill, Stockwood Hmm. Quedgeley and Kingsway into Stroud doesn't fill me with joy on their behalf but I can see it may well be unavoidable and has been proposed in the past. On the whole Nailsworth feels more Stroud-ish than Minchinhampton and while I think both really look to Stroud I'd rather have Nailsworth than Minch if we can only have one. (I can see that the map looks neater the way you've suggested, but on the ground the sticky-out bit that would be the Nailsworth Salient is in fact straight down the valley along the A46 whereas Minch is up the hill and across the common - it definitely faces Stroud more than Ciren, but once you're up on the top there you are up the Cotswold scarp and its a straight flat drive to the A419 and then on to Ciren; so it may be "Stroud" but it's "less Stroud than Nailsworth is" if you see what I mean. Stroud is the Five Valleys and the Severn Escarpment, Cotswold is the Dip Slope and Thames watershed. The Dursley & Yate seat sets my teeth on edge. No obvious centre to it and the fact that it could be called "Dursley, Yate and Tetbury" or even "D Y T Chipping Sodbury & Berkeley" shows the lack of coherence in either central place or common identity as a sub-region. Three separate district or unitary councils, such fun for the MP to deal with. But I can see that Gloucestershire is going to be a bugger one way or another, maybe this is the sacrificial seat needed to make the others work. Sorry if that sounds whingy, I can't do this stuff myself, but thought I'd chuck it in in case anyone can see any solutions or mitigations. Quedgeley was in fact part of the Stroud district until 1991 when it was incorporated into the city of Gloucester. Quedgeley was in the Stroud constituency thus until 1997. A Dursley, Yate & Tetbury seat is unnecessary-Yate would fit in better with Bristol's suburbs in South Gloucestershire; it is Thornbury that should stretch into the southern reaches of Stroud and the Cotswolds. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jan 10, 2021 19:55:32 GMT
Hmm. Quedgeley and Kingsway into Stroud doesn't fill me with joy on their behalf but I can see it may well be unavoidable and has been proposed in the past. On the whole Nailsworth feels more Stroud-ish than Minchinhampton and while I think both really look to Stroud I'd rather have Nailsworth than Minch if we can only have one. (I can see that the map looks neater the way you've suggested, but on the ground the sticky-out bit that would be the Nailsworth Salient is in fact straight down the valley along the A46 whereas Minch is up the hill and across the common - it definitely faces Stroud more than Ciren, but once you're up on the top there you are up the Cotswold scarp and its a straight flat drive to the A419 and then on to Ciren; so it may be "Stroud" but it's "less Stroud than Nailsworth is" if you see what I mean. Stroud is the Five Valleys and the Severn Escarpment, Cotswold is the Dip Slope and Thames watershed. The Dursley & Yate seat sets my teeth on edge. No obvious centre to it and the fact that it could be called "Dursley, Yate and Tetbury" or even "D Y T Chipping Sodbury & Berkeley" shows the lack of coherence in either central place or common identity as a sub-region. Three separate district or unitary councils, such fun for the MP to deal with. But I can see that Gloucestershire is going to be a bugger one way or another, maybe this is the sacrificial seat needed to make the others work. Sorry if that sounds whingy, I can't do this stuff myself, but thought I'd chuck it in in case anyone can see any solutions or mitigations. when it was incorporated into the city of Gloucester. Quedgeley was in the Stroud constituency thus until 1997. A Dursley, Yate & Tetbury seat is unnecessary-Yate would fit in better with Bristol's suburbs in South Gloucestershire; it is Thornbury that should stretch into the southern reaches of Stroud and the Cotswolds. Yes, I know, but there's a reason it was incorporated into the City of Gloucester, viz. that it is a suburb of Gloucester with continuous housing all the way to the cathedral, whereas at it separated from Stroud by miles of countryside and hills. The secondary schools are in Gloucester and so is the obvious shopping centre, railway station etc etc. It's not the worst thing in the world to do and obviously something has to give but if I lived there I'd be disappointed to be put into Stroud |
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Post by iain on Jan 10, 2021 20:06:44 GMT
A first go at Gloucestershire (and Bristol, though I'm not super happy with my boundaries there): Forest of Dean - unchanged Tewkesbury - loses Longlevens, Winchcombe and Isbourne; gains Up Hatherley and Benhall & the Reddings Gloucester - gains Longlevens, loses both Quedgeley wards plus Kingsway Cheltenham - loses Up Hatherley and Benhall & the Reddings Cotswold - gains Winchcombe and Isbourne; loses the three Tetbury wards, Grumbolds Ash and the parts of Stroud District Stroud - gains the 3 wards from Gloucester and Minchinhampton; loses Nailsworth, Coaley & Uley, Berkeley Vale, Dursley, Cam East and Cam West Dursley & Yate - the leftover parts of Stroud and Cotswold Districts, plus Charfield, Chipping Sodbury, Dodington, Yate North and Yate Central Thornbury & Bradley Stoke - Thornbury, Severn Vale, Frampton Cotterell, Pilning, Winterbourne, Charlton & Cribbs, Patchway, Bradley Stoke x2, Stoke Gifford Kingswood - gains Boyd Valley Bristol North West - loses Stoke Bishop, gains Filton Bristol West - loses Ashley, Lawrence Hill, Easton; gains Stoke Bishop Bristol East - loses Brislington x2, Stockwood; gains Stoke Park & Cheswick, Frenchay & Downend, Staple Hill & Mangotsfield Bristol South - loses Knowle Bristol South East - Ashley, Brislington East, Brislington West, Easton, Knowle, Lawrence Hill, Stockwood Hmm. Quedgeley and Kingsway into Stroud doesn't fill me with joy on their behalf but I can see it may well be unavoidable and has been proposed in the past. On the whole Nailsworth feels more Stroud-ish than Minchinhampton and while I think both really look to Stroud I'd rather have Nailsworth than Minch if we can only have one. (I can see that the map looks neater the way you've suggested, but on the ground the sticky-out bit that would be the Nailsworth Salient is in fact straight down the valley along the A46 whereas Minch is up the hill and across the common - it definitely faces Stroud more than Ciren, but once you're up on the top there you are up the Cotswold scarp and its a straight flat drive to the A419 and then on to Ciren; so it may be "Stroud" but it's "less Stroud than Nailsworth is" if you see what I mean. Stroud is the Five Valleys and the Severn Escarpment, Cotswold is the Dip Slope and Thames watershed. The Dursley & Yate seat sets my teeth on edge. No obvious centre to it and the fact that it could be called "Dursley, Yate and Tetbury" or even "D Y T Chipping Sodbury & Berkeley" shows the lack of coherence in either central place or common identity as a sub-region. Three separate district or unitary councils, such fun for the MP to deal with. But I can see that Gloucestersire is going to be a bugger one way or another, maybe this is the sacrificial seat needed to make the others work. Sorry if that sounds whingy, I can't do this stuff myself, but thought I'd chuck it in in case anyone can see any solutions or mitigations. Minchinhampton wouldn’t really work, but you can put Severn ward in instead of Nailsworth. Either Quedgeley or Longlevens (inc Elmbridge) needs to come out of Gloucester. Neither is brilliant but I don’t see that one is particularly worse. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jan 10, 2021 20:28:10 GMT
Hmm. Quedgeley and Kingsway into Stroud doesn't fill me with joy on their behalf but I can see it may well be unavoidable and has been proposed in the past. On the whole Nailsworth feels more Stroud-ish than Minchinhampton and while I think both really look to Stroud I'd rather have Nailsworth than Minch if we can only have one. (I can see that the map looks neater the way you've suggested, but on the ground the sticky-out bit that would be the Nailsworth Salient is in fact straight down the valley along the A46 whereas Minch is up the hill and across the common - it definitely faces Stroud more than Ciren, but once you're up on the top there you are up the Cotswold scarp and its a straight flat drive to the A419 and then on to Ciren; so it may be "Stroud" but it's "less Stroud than Nailsworth is" if you see what I mean. Stroud is the Five Valleys and the Severn Escarpment, Cotswold is the Dip Slope and Thames watershed. The Dursley & Yate seat sets my teeth on edge. No obvious centre to it and the fact that it could be called "Dursley, Yate and Tetbury" or even "D Y T Chipping Sodbury & Berkeley" shows the lack of coherence in either central place or common identity as a sub-region. Three separate district or unitary councils, such fun for the MP to deal with. But I can see that Gloucestersire is going to be a bugger one way or another, maybe this is the sacrificial seat needed to make the others work. Sorry if that sounds whingy, I can't do this stuff myself, but thought I'd chuck it in in case anyone can see any solutions or mitigations. Minchinhampton wouldn’t really work, but you can put Severn ward in instead of Nailsworth. Either Quedgeley or Longlevens (inc Elmbridge) needs to come out of Gloucester. Neither is brilliant but I don’t see that one is particularly worse. Personally I'd go with the Severn/Nailsworth thing; doesn't feel too terrible for Severn to go into wherever Berkeley is going. Obviously Minch can't go into the Dursley Yate combo, I think it has to be Stroud for preference and Cotswold if not, I was just saying that if anything Nailsworth is a better fit with Stroud than Minch. Completely take your point on Quedgeley, as I say I'm not enamoured but something has to give, doesn't it? Gloucester is just too big. I'd say taking Longlevens out of it is worse than taking Quedgeley. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 10, 2021 21:56:38 GMT
Hmm. Quedgeley and Kingsway into Stroud doesn't fill me with joy on their behalf but I can see it may well be unavoidable and has been proposed in the past. On the whole Nailsworth feels more Stroud-ish than Minchinhampton and while I think both really look to Stroud I'd rather have Nailsworth than Minch if we can only have one. (I can see that the map looks neater the way you've suggested, but on the ground the sticky-out bit that would be the Nailsworth Salient is in fact straight down the valley along the A46 whereas Minch is up the hill and across the common - it definitely faces Stroud more than Ciren, but once you're up on the top there you are up the Cotswold scarp and its a straight flat drive to the A419 and then on to Ciren; so it may be "Stroud" but it's "less Stroud than Nailsworth is" if you see what I mean. Stroud is the Five Valleys and the Severn Escarpment, Cotswold is the Dip Slope and Thames watershed. The Dursley & Yate seat sets my teeth on edge. No obvious centre to it and the fact that it could be called "Dursley, Yate and Tetbury" or even "D Y T Chipping Sodbury & Berkeley" shows the lack of coherence in either central place or common identity as a sub-region. Three separate district or unitary councils, such fun for the MP to deal with. But I can see that Gloucestershire is going to be a bugger one way or another, maybe this is the sacrificial seat needed to make the others work. Sorry if that sounds whingy, I can't do this stuff myself, but thought I'd chuck it in in case anyone can see any solutions or mitigations.
A Dursley, Yate & Tetbury seat is unnecessary-Yate would fit in better with Bristol's suburbs in South Gloucestershire; it is Thornbury that should stretch into the southern reaches of Stroud and the Cotswolds. Correct as far as the district though it was certainly in the Gloucester constituency as early as 1983 and possibly since 1974 |
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Post by greenhert on Jan 10, 2021 22:12:24 GMT
Quedgeley was in fact part of the Stroud district until 1991 when it was incorporated into the city of Gloucester. Quedgeley was in the Stroud constituency thus until 1997.
A Dursley, Yate & Tetbury seat is unnecessary-Yate would fit in better with Bristol's suburbs in South Gloucestershire; it is Thornbury that should stretch into the southern reaches of Stroud and the Cotswolds. Correct as far as the district though it was certainly in the Gloucester constituency as early as 1983 and possibly since 1974 1983. Gloucester also included Hardwicke and Upton St Leonards within its boundaries from 1983-97 even though neither of those villages can be considered suburbs of Gloucester in any fashion! |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 10, 2021 22:53:10 GMT
Correct as far as the district though it was certainly in the Gloucester constituency as early as 1983 and possibly since 1974 1983. Gloucester also included Hardwicke and Upton St Leonards within its boundaries from 1983-97 even though neither of those villages can be considered suburbs of Gloucester in any fashion! Yes. I wasn't sure because the BBC/ITN Guide to the New Paliamentary constituencies showed fewer than 4,000 voters transferred from Stroud to Gloucester which didn't seem like enough to include Quedgely (I thought it might just be Hardwicke and Upton St Leonards). I hadn't appreciated how unpopulated that area was in the late 70s - Quedgley only had an electorate of 1,400 in 1976 (from when I think those figures are taken) - it was nearly 8,000 by the time it moved in 1991 and it's getting on for 15,000 now |
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Post by mboy on Jan 10, 2021 22:55:16 GMT
Bristol North West - loses Stoke Bishop, gains Filton Bristol West - loses Ashley, Lawrence Hill, Easton; gains Stoke Bishop Bristol East - loses Brislington x2, Stockwood; gains Stoke Park & Cheswick, Frenchay & Downend, Staple Hill & Mangotsfield Bristol South - loses Knowle Bristol South East - Ashley, Brislington East, Brislington West, Easton, Knowle, Lawrence Hill, Stockwood Ashley in Bristol South East? That's never going to fly. It's a shame because the other seats are pretty good. You might get away with it if you call Southeast Bristol East, and you call East Bristol North East... |
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Post by Foggy on Jan 11, 2021 6:09:01 GMT
58 seats Quotas by county and unitary: Wiltshire 5.15 Swindon 2.12 Thanks for compiling the figures in that post. I can't get this area to work for 7 seats at all on current boundaries. I doubt any replacement divisions for Wiltshire UA will be more helpful either. |
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Post by swindonlad on Jan 11, 2021 7:04:33 GMT
58 seats Quotas by county and unitary: Wiltshire 5.15 Swindon 2.12 Thanks for compiling the figures in that post. I can't get this area to work for 7 seats at all on current boundaries. I doubt any replacement divisions for Wiltshire UA will be more helpful either. Will we be allowed split wards in Wiltshire? Otherwise we get some very odd constituencies or some wards will have to move. Obviously, this will have knock on effects |
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