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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 24, 2023 14:59:21 GMT
Yes that was my initial reading too. Of course he has never held an elected position IIRC, but that never seemed to do Eisenhower too much harm. Clinton’s first Secretary of Labor is the only government position he’s held. He’s never likely to be a candidate, he’s barely younger than Biden, but if he were to succeed Biden I suspect he’d create a piece of history as the first back-to-back Presidents born in the same town, Scranton, Pennsylvania.
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Post by johnloony on Jan 24, 2023 15:09:50 GMT
Yes that was my initial reading too. Of course he has never held an elected position IIRC, but that never seemed to do Eisenhower too much harm. Clinton’s first Secretary of Labor is the only government position he’s held. He’s never likely to be a candidate, he’s barely younger than Biden, but if he were to succeed Biden I suspect he’d create a piece of history as the first back-to-back Presidents born in the same town, Scranton, Pennsylvania. The statisticalologists would also thrive on the fact of him being the shortest POTUS.
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Post by aargauer on Jan 24, 2023 16:25:18 GMT
Robert Reich - is Biden a viable candidate for 2024? (a) Has he done a good job? Qualified yes(b) Should he run if he wants to? Yes
(c) If not Biden, who? Impossible to know now
(d) Will Biden be the best candidate to beat Trump (or whoever)? Doubtful
(e) Would he be a capable leader in his mid 80s? NoWith regards to: (d) Will Biden be the best candidate to beat Trump (or whoever)?? Doubtful. I'd agree, but he'd also be far from the worst candidate as well. There's no way I could see the likes of Kamala Harris, for example, beating Trump or DeSantis. Ianrobo running as a democrat would have a chance of beating Trump
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Post by manchesterman on Jan 24, 2023 19:23:55 GMT
Much as that would make for an amusing series of debates, I dont think he would be eligible to run, sadly
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Post by rockefeller on Feb 1, 2023 5:35:40 GMT
She's running
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 4, 2023 19:18:27 GMT
The DNC approves a reordering of the early primaries but will every state play ball?
The Iowa caucus will still be first for the Republicans and New Hampshire still has its first primary state law so there could still be battles ahead.
Oh and Nevada is switching to a primary. Does that leave just Iowa doing inaccessible chaotic shambles caucuses?
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Post by CatholicLeft on Feb 4, 2023 21:50:44 GMT
I love all kinds of electoral processes - I love the arcane, the complicated, the simple, etc. However, when I had the Iowa Caucus process explained to me by an American Deomcrat friend (I had studied them and thought I had misunderstood), I was slack-jawed. He asked if I needed him to explain in to me again and I told him that I wished I had never asked. It is like a cross between musical chairs and one of those appalling team-building exercises so beloved of overpaid, understimulated, middle managers.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 4, 2023 21:59:46 GMT
I love all kinds of electoral processes - I love the arcane, the complicated, the simple, etc. However, when I had the Iowa Caucus process explained to me by an American Deomcrat friend (I had studied them and thought I had misunderstood), I was slack-jawed. He asked if I needed him to explain in to me again and I told him that I wished I had never asked. It is like a cross between musical chairs and one of those appalling team-building exercises so beloved of overpaid, understimulated, middle managers. Iowa innit?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 4, 2023 22:02:11 GMT
With regards to: (d) Will Biden be the best candidate to beat Trump (or whoever)?? Doubtful. I'd agree, but he'd also be far from the worst candidate as well. There's no way I could see the likes of Kamala Harris, for example, beating Trump or DeSantis. Ianrobo running as a democrat would have a chance of beating Trump Ianrobo running as a Republican would have more than a chance of beating Harris.
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Post by greatkingrat on Feb 4, 2023 22:27:17 GMT
Ianrobo running as a democrat would have a chance of beating Trump Ianrobo running as a Republican would have more than a chance of beating Harris. If ianrobo was both the Democratic and Republican candidate, then Ross Perot would have a good chance of beating him as an independent, and he's dead.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Feb 4, 2023 22:31:13 GMT
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Post by rockefeller on Feb 6, 2023 17:25:31 GMT
We may joke about her running for President but Kari is a likely VP pick for Trump should he win the nomination.
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Post by rockefeller on Feb 13, 2023 21:02:38 GMT
DeSantis MO-mentum
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Feb 13, 2023 21:13:26 GMT
DeSantis has one huge advantage in a primary against Trump. An awful lot of Republicans, including those that like Trump, really like what DeSantis is doing as Governor of Florida. Yes it is mostly performative but the base is really lapping it and his pitch is that unlike Trump he gets things done. Obviously it is a bit of an unfair comparison as he has had solid GOP majorities in the legislature throughout his time as Governor but the base don't really pay attention to such things.
His major disadvantage is that he isn't as good a public performer as Trump and in a national campaign may well look disappointing to GOP voters who like his record.
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Post by stb12 on Feb 13, 2023 22:02:59 GMT
DeSantis has one huge advantage in a primary against Trump. An awful lot of Republicans, including those that like Trump, really like what DeSantis is doing as Governor of Florida. Yes it is mostly performative but the base is really lapping it and his pitch is that unlike Trump he gets things done. Obviously it is a bit of an unfair comparison as he has had solid GOP majorities in the legislature throughout his time as Governor but the base don't really pay attention to such things. His major disadvantage is that he isn't as good a public performer as Trump and in a national campaign may well look disappointing to GOP voters who like his record. There is also the electoral results angle, he lead the GOP to success in Florida including a record breaking personal victory whereas Trump backed candidates failed in winnable races elsewhere
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Post by CatholicLeft on Feb 13, 2023 22:30:18 GMT
Trump so close, with his base being more motivated, likely makes this a Trump primary win - De Santis is making the headlines, and Trump still achieves this support in a poll of a major Mid-West GP primary? Not good.
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 14, 2023 12:13:58 GMT
Nikki Haley is in:
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Post by rockefeller on Feb 14, 2023 16:51:06 GMT
I wouldn't be shocked if Haley drops out if DeSantis runs
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 14, 2023 22:28:32 GMT
I wouldn't be shocked if Haley drops out if DeSantis runs I would, she’s got the first woman Republican, her minority heritage and somewhat less crazy appeal. Plus if South Carolina remains an early Primary she’s only got to not get demolished in Iowa and New Hampshire before getting home State advantage.
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 15, 2023 14:41:19 GMT
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